prop-frags
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More stand construction pics:
Mike's 300 Double-D
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blumoon reefers
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Woo Hoo!!!! It looks really nice Mike and Terry. BTW, LOVE the wall color! Is it the same color that you had before?
This is "wordy" - so forgive/bear with me Mike:
I love what you guys have done with the cabinet work. Beautiful!:wavehand:
But there is one suggestion I would like to make( by no means do I want you to take this as a criticism): Put a solid top on that stand, and drill oversize holes for your bulkheads penetrations. Then put a piece of foamboard - not the white beadboard, but the pink or blue brand of extruded foam on the stand top and glue it in place. Here are the two most important aspects of this proceedure:
1. Make certain that the foam is the same thickness as the vertical distance/height from the bottom edge of the tank base trim - to the bottom outside pane of glass, . Let's assume that to be 1/2''. Then you want to use 1/2'' foam. NOT 3/4'' or 3/8''. This is to help support the glass, and even out stresses - not to force it to remain perfectly flat. So it still allows it to ''float'' but not sag, should there be any point load, or un-equal stress. The foam allows for some give, but not a huge amount as with softer materials.
2. Make certain that the foam is cut to fit INSIDE the frame/trim. You do not want the tank resting on the trim.
The solid top can be plywood, or structural OSB - and will lesson any potential of problems such as you have experienced
This method has worked for me numerous times thu the years. And - as for the solid top...it is how the tank manufacturer makes their stands. The must be a reason for that!:beer:
Cheers!
T
I love what you guys have done with the cabinet work. Beautiful!:wavehand:
But there is one suggestion I would like to make( by no means do I want you to take this as a criticism): Put a solid top on that stand, and drill oversize holes for your bulkheads penetrations. Then put a piece of foamboard - not the white beadboard, but the pink or blue brand of extruded foam on the stand top and glue it in place. Here are the two most important aspects of this proceedure:
1. Make certain that the foam is the same thickness as the vertical distance/height from the bottom edge of the tank base trim - to the bottom outside pane of glass, . Let's assume that to be 1/2''. Then you want to use 1/2'' foam. NOT 3/4'' or 3/8''. This is to help support the glass, and even out stresses - not to force it to remain perfectly flat. So it still allows it to ''float'' but not sag, should there be any point load, or un-equal stress. The foam allows for some give, but not a huge amount as with softer materials.
2. Make certain that the foam is cut to fit INSIDE the frame/trim. You do not want the tank resting on the trim.
The solid top can be plywood, or structural OSB - and will lesson any potential of problems such as you have experienced
This method has worked for me numerous times thu the years. And - as for the solid top...it is how the tank manufacturer makes their stands. The must be a reason for that!:beer:
Cheers!
T
jcovercash
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Looking good. One question Do you not feel the need to put an upright support in the middle of the 6' span along the front and back? I know you are using 2x6 but to me it seems like any deflection in the middle there could cause the same problems again. I don't see many stands without some sort of middle support when spanning that much distance.
Can't wait to see it all back together. Any info from marineland on why this happened? I am still looking at the DD tanks myself.
Thanks,
Josh
EDIT: NVM it does look like they are there just holding the doors in the later pictures?
Can't wait to see it all back together. Any info from marineland on why this happened? I am still looking at the DD tanks myself.
Thanks,
Josh
EDIT: NVM it does look like they are there just holding the doors in the later pictures?
prop-frags
SPS Slave
Hi Josh,
Yes, there are vertical supports in the middle front and back. Here's a better pic:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5136405343/" title="fw 575 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/5136405343_d37e7bdaba_z.jpg" width="640" height="425" alt="fw 575" /></a>
prop-frags
SPS Slave
Milissa, it's basically the same color as before, just 2 shades darker...
-Terry
prop-frags
SPS Slave
prop-frags
SPS Slave
Yes indeed, our friend LB certainly was instrumental in helping us build the new stand! He's really got some expertise and we thank him for all his effort and those great tools he brought over (lovin' those 12v Bosch litheon hand-helds!)
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5137612898/" title="fw 588 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/5137612898_1aa1be95cc.jpg" width="492" height="500" alt="fw 588" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5137004907/" title="fw 587 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/5137004907_1e1cba68a4.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="fw 587" /></a>
Thanks LB!! :thumbsup:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5137612898/" title="fw 588 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/5137612898_1aa1be95cc.jpg" width="492" height="500" alt="fw 588" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5137004907/" title="fw 587 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/5137004907_1e1cba68a4.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="fw 587" /></a>
Thanks LB!! :thumbsup:
prop-frags
SPS Slave
Another project we're finishing off is the electrical work. Recall that our dedicated 20-amp circuit under the tank was flooded and caught fire, so it needed to be removed.
In order to increase safety, we've decided to move the electrical to the laundry room. The general design idea is to have all the outlets, timers, ballasts, etc., in the laundry room and have the cables for the lighting come through the wall above the tank into the canopy.
Since we're working with home runs back to the house's main electrical panel, we are upgrading the panel, too.
Last weekend 10/24, we installed a new sub-panel for our generator, and moved all the reef tank-related circuits over there, along with some of the circuits (e.g., refrig) that we'll need in the case of an extended utility outage. We also installed a 30-amp connector on the outside wall of the house to plug the generator into and power the sub-panel when the utility power goes offline. Here are pics of the new sub-panel:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5137456428/" title="fw 583 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/5137456428_669ae796d2.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="fw 583" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5137456612/" title="fw 584 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/5137456612_0dc952eece.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="fw 584" /></a>
And here's the outdoor generator connector:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5136883745/" title="fw 586 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1106/5136883745_c73d817a04.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="fw 586" /></a>
Next up was to pull two new 20-amp circuits into the laundry room. We installed a pre-fab wall-mounted bathroom cabinet to house the electrical and the "pass-through" into the display tank room:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5137376348/" title="fw 582 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/5137376348_54c575b33f.jpg" width="332" height="500" alt="fw 582" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5136771217/" title="fw 581 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1118/5136771217_6ea2d0d1d1.jpg" width="332" height="500" alt="fw 581" /></a>
Here is a shot of the lighting cables coming through the "pass-through" on the other side:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5137488538/" title="fw 585 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4127/5137488538_0115400caf.jpg" width="332" height="500" alt="fw 585" /></a>
Our LFS tells us that the new tank should be arriving this week from Marineland! As we mentioned before, we had custom-ordered the tank this time, opting to have the factory do a bottom eurobrace and drilling the closed loop and extra drain bulkhead holes:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5137307867/" title="drilling layout v2 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/5137307867_c92a1eff03.jpg" width="500" height="289" alt="drilling layout v2" /></a>
Hopefully our next few updates will really start to roll!! :bounce1:
In order to increase safety, we've decided to move the electrical to the laundry room. The general design idea is to have all the outlets, timers, ballasts, etc., in the laundry room and have the cables for the lighting come through the wall above the tank into the canopy.
Since we're working with home runs back to the house's main electrical panel, we are upgrading the panel, too.
Last weekend 10/24, we installed a new sub-panel for our generator, and moved all the reef tank-related circuits over there, along with some of the circuits (e.g., refrig) that we'll need in the case of an extended utility outage. We also installed a 30-amp connector on the outside wall of the house to plug the generator into and power the sub-panel when the utility power goes offline. Here are pics of the new sub-panel:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5137456428/" title="fw 583 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/5137456428_669ae796d2.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="fw 583" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5137456612/" title="fw 584 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/5137456612_0dc952eece.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="fw 584" /></a>
And here's the outdoor generator connector:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5136883745/" title="fw 586 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1106/5136883745_c73d817a04.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="fw 586" /></a>
Next up was to pull two new 20-amp circuits into the laundry room. We installed a pre-fab wall-mounted bathroom cabinet to house the electrical and the "pass-through" into the display tank room:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5137376348/" title="fw 582 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/5137376348_54c575b33f.jpg" width="332" height="500" alt="fw 582" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5136771217/" title="fw 581 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1118/5136771217_6ea2d0d1d1.jpg" width="332" height="500" alt="fw 581" /></a>
Here is a shot of the lighting cables coming through the "pass-through" on the other side:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5137488538/" title="fw 585 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4127/5137488538_0115400caf.jpg" width="332" height="500" alt="fw 585" /></a>
Our LFS tells us that the new tank should be arriving this week from Marineland! As we mentioned before, we had custom-ordered the tank this time, opting to have the factory do a bottom eurobrace and drilling the closed loop and extra drain bulkhead holes:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/5137307867/" title="drilling layout v2 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/5137307867_c92a1eff03.jpg" width="500" height="289" alt="drilling layout v2" /></a>
Hopefully our next few updates will really start to roll!! :bounce1:
LB
Premium Member
LB - now THAT was some fine quality self -egrandisement!!!
T
I'm just a redneck with a drill -- so be kind with the big words:lol2:
canyousee
New member
Mike thanks for all the effort you have put in to this thread it has been very helpful. You have one hell of a fine wife after all the destruction of your fine home with the last freak accident most would have said over my cold dead body yours said lets do it better,please give her a hug for me.:thumbsup:
Redhdfishgirl
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Looking great! Thank you for all your help with our stand!
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