More sump questions?

shawna1972

shawna1972

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Ok well I just got a great deal on a used sump.I have to fix 2 cracks
not really bad but I think they may be fixable.
I need to know how many gallons a Pro Clear Aquatics 400 series w/o pre filter holds?
I have a 125 gallon tank but Im confused on what size internal pump and what kind ?
I do not have the overflows yet but I'm looking at the life reefs any suggestions ?
Also is weldon 3 a good choice for acrylic repair?

Thanks
 
length x width x height (in inches) divided by 231 = volume in US gallons

example: 18 x 48 x 20 / 231 (dimensions of a standard 75 gallon aquuarium) = 74.8 gallons

Weldon is good for acrylic work.
JMO but I wouldn't use a cracked sump that's been repaired when it's soooo easy (and inexpensive!) to find a nice used glass aquarium to use as a sump.

If you're looking for a reliable submersible pump for your 125 a MagDrive 12 would be a good choice.
 
Thanks,
I can kick myself for not measuring,The sump does NOT fit. lol
I didn't take into account I had to get around the center brace!
newbie mistake I guess ahhhh so Im re-thinking things over at this point. :)
Thanks for the reply and extra info.

Shawna
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15211536#post15211536 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by shawna1972
Thanks,
I can kick myself for not measuring,The sump does NOT fit. lol
I didn't take into account I had to get around the center brace!
newbie mistake I guess ahhhh so Im re-thinking things over at this point. :)
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hey- I'm not done with you :)

I made the same mistake(s). Many of us have.
The stand center brace is easily removable. Remove it, slide the sump in and replace the brace. (Trust me. I've done this on stands holding up full aquariums.)

you'll need to repair the cracked sump first though...... :p
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15211711#post15211711 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gary Majchrzak
hey- I'm not done with you :)

I made the same mistake(s). Many of us have.
The stand center brace is easily removable. Remove it, slide the sump in and replace the brace. (Trust me. I've done this on stands holding up full aquariums.)

you'll need to repair the cracked sump first though...... :p
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Thanks for not giving up on me :)
I don't think mine can be removed? I'll have to look at it more tomorrow though :)
I'm going to try to repair the sump this weekend.
I called every where today for that weldon 3 and no one had it
I called Home Depot,Lowes,Value,some other hardware stores.
Home Depot had something called "weldbond" is this the same thing?
I'll keep you posted on the brace.
Thanks for the reply
Take care :)
 
I didn't find anyone in the Rochester area that sold Weldon and ended off ordering some online. If you are in the Rochester area, you are welcomed to borrow some of mine. I have more than I will use.

But, I don't think Weldon #3 is the right choice. It does depend on the crack and how you are planning to fix the crack. But it is a liquid as thin as water. It does not fill any gaps. If you are looking to fill a crack, you would be better off using Weldon #16 (which I also have). It is like Weldon #3, but also has acrylic in it. So it can fill in a gap. It does depend on the crack though. If it is something small, that might work okay. If anything structural or large, I would add pieces of acrylic to cover the entire cracked area. It won't look good, but who cares, it is a sump.

Dave
 
I recently had a cracked acrylic sump... the best way to fix it drill the end of the cracks to stp them from spreading, then cut a piece of 1/4" acrylic the entire length of whichever side is cracked. I was told weld-on 16 or 40 are best for this type of repair. You can also use weldon to attach some strips of acrylic on the inside for extra protection. According to an acrylic expert here on RC, this will make the tank even stronger than before.

Of course, all costs considered it was just as cheap to cut baffles and silicone them to an old glass tank :p
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15214315#post15214315 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dbartkow
I didn't find anyone in the Rochester area that sold Weldon and ended off ordering some online. If you are in the Rochester area, you are welcomed to borrow some of mine. I have more than I will use.

But, I don't think Weldon #3 is the right choice. It does depend on the crack and how you are planning to fix the crack. But it is a liquid as thin as water. It does not fill any gaps. If you are looking to fill a crack, you would be better off using Weldon #16 (which I also have). It is like Weldon #3, but also has acrylic in it. So it can fill in a gap. It does depend on the crack though. If it is something small, that might work okay. If anything structural or large, I would add pieces of acrylic to cover the entire cracked area. It won't look good, but who cares, it is a sump.

Dave
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Thanks for the offer :) I'm still up in the air if I want to try to repair this one or find another cheap glass tank as you said. I may just say screw it and try using a bin lol call me cheap but this hobby is like a never ending money pit ! ha ha I love it though!

Today I looked under the tank and the support is attached to the bottom of the tank and I don't think it disconnects without taking the whole bottom off!
So it's either I drain the tank "which if I do this I might as well try drilling" and use the fixed sump.........or get a different set up for the sump and use the life reef overflows.
I'm thinking if I try to drill and I crack the tank I'm done because I don't have another tank to try to house everything while I look for another tank and for me it sounds to risky at this point.
Think Im gonna look for a diy rubbermaid sump threads? lol

Thanks for offering up your supplies it was greatly appeciated! :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15214641#post15214641 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jaybfresh
I recently had a cracked acrylic sump... the best way to fix it drill the end of the cracks to stp them from spreading, then cut a piece of 1/4" acrylic the entire length of whichever side is cracked. I was told weld-on 16 or 40 are best for this type of repair. You can also use weldon to attach some strips of acrylic on the inside for extra protection. According to an acrylic expert here on RC, this will make the tank even stronger than before.

Of course, all costs considered it was just as cheap to cut baffles and silicone them to an old glass tank :p
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Sounds much easier for a non diy person like myself lol Thanks for the info :)
 
<a href="http://s678.photobucket.com/albums/vv149/shawna1972/?action=view&current=06180913312.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv149/shawna1972/06180913312.jpg" border="0" alt="full view of sump"></a>
 
<a href="http://s678.photobucket.com/albums/vv149/shawna1972/?action=view&current=06180913021.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv149/shawna1972/06180913021.jpg" border="0" alt="sump clear view of both cracks"></a>
 
This is second option but Im not sure if I can use it :

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15216354#post15216354 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by shawna1972
This is second option but Im not sure if I can use it :

<a href="http://s678.photobucket.com/albums/vv149/shawna1972/?action=view&current=06180913021.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv149/shawna1972/06180913021.jpg" border="0" alt="sump clear view of both cracks"></a>
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Sorry wrong photo here it is:
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hope this time it works

<a href="http://s678.photobucket.com/albums/vv149/shawna1972/?action=view&current=0618091346a1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv149/shawna1972/0618091346a1.jpg" border="0" alt="how much room I have under tank"></a>
 
shawna- do you know if that's a standard AGA pine stand?
(It sure does look like one).

If so, the middle upright support (between the two cabinet doors) will be stapled to the top and bottom stand cross members. This upright support can be tapped out with a hammer in order to get a sump inside the stand. (For peace of mind you can cut a 2 x 4 for temporary support but this isn't necessary. Weight of the aquarium is borne on all four corners of the stand. I've done this with a 225 gallon aquarium full of water. I will admit that I was very skeptical before doing it.)
 
I'd suggest the same process except nails are a little tougher to knock out than staples. If you do this I'd suggest using wood screws to re-fasten the upright and cushion the blows of the hammer with some rags so you don't damage the wood :)
 
Wow that's an useasy feeling huh? I don't know about that Gary with my luck the tank will crash to the floor lol
At least I know it is maybe an option, if I have to go that route.
Thanks again :)

I'll keep you posted
 
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