Multiple magnificas

[Gig 'em]

The bigger one is about 9" and the smaller is about 6". Green is starting to return to their tentacles

 

[Gig 'em]

Picture update with some whites on. Both mags are looking healthy and coloring up very nicely! Looking to get in another round soon.

 

[Gig 'em]

Well I'm at a loss here. Both anemones were doing well for almost a month, and then suddenly and out of nowhere the medium one started showing lesions around the mouth. I took it out and started another round cipro last week. Whatever is wrong with it is not being improved by cipro treatment. Possibly viral infection or some other systematic failure? This has happened to me before with a purple and green mag, it was fine for months and then POOF! Started going downhill and could never be successfully treated. Very unfortunate really. I imagine it will be dead by the end of the week. The larger one has been put in treatment too and is now starting to go downhill. [emoji31]

 

[Jamie1210]

Oh no! Reminds me of what happened to mine. Went through cipro with flying colors but after a few months in dt, just went downhill. So sorry to hear.

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[pfan151]

Wow. Depressing to see

 

[Gig 'em]

I've been out of town for a few days for work and came home to the medium anemone dead in its tank. The larger one is alive, but hasn't improved. I'm going to change my treatment strategy and try a different technique since cipro doesn't seem to be working. I have two more mags arriving today from a different vendor, hopefully they will have better results. If not I may consider throwing in the towel on this venture of mine. [emoji29]

 

[Kinetic]

I've been out of town for a few days for work and came home to the medium anemone dead in its tank. The larger one is alive, but hasn't improved. I'm going to change my treatment strategy and try a different technique since cipro doesn't seem to be working. I have two more mags arriving today from a different vendor, hopefully they will have better results. If not I may consider throwing in the towel on this venture of mine. [emoji29]

OMG don't give up Gig'em! The (reefing) world needs you!

 

[Gig 'em]

OMG don't give up Gig'em! The (reefing) world needs you!

Well the good news is the two mags I received today look to be in better shape than the last order. So there's hope for my morale yet with this round. Going to change up my strategy and try something new with these guys to see if I can get improved results. Pictures to follow

 

[Gig 'em]

Mags have acclimated well and look good so far. Not the most amazing colors, but maybe that will change over time.

 

[Gig 'em]

Visited a friends house today who I sold one of my mags too. It's good to remind myself of the success stories [emoji7]

 

[Jamie1210]

Don't give up! You've been doing so well with the project so far, don't let this setback get you down. As shown from the pic you last posted, it's very rewarding when the mag pulls through!

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[THEUNION1]

Are they being fed along with the long process of acclimation?

 

[Gig 'em]

Are they being fed along with the long process of acclimation?

Thank you for the encouraging replies everyone!

No, I typically don't feed them during acclimating. In my experience feeding them during this stage leading to the best results.

 

[BClute]

Thank you for the encouraging replies everyone!

No, I typically don't feed them during acclimating. In my experience feeding them during this stage leading to the best results.

Hey Gig, do you have a step by step instructions for your treatment plan? I have my first ever mag coming in on Tuesday and I a have been reading up on the treatment/acc process but still have quite a few questions. Like why type of lights are best to use, light cycle, and most importantly I've read that people are making the water and then letting it sit for at least 24 hours prior to use in the qt tank.. I just want to clarify that this is newly made saltwater and not water form the DT..? Thanks a ton in advance.


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[Gig 'em]

Hey Gig, do you have a step by step instructions for your treatment plan? I have my first ever mag coming in on Tuesday and I a have been reading up on the treatment/acc process but still have quite a few questions. Like why type of lights are best to use, light cycle, and most importantly I've read that people are making the water and then letting it sit for at least 24 hours prior to use in the qt tank.. I just want to clarify that this is newly made saltwater and not water form the DT..? Thanks a ton in advance.


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I have a set up in my fish room with layers of QT and treatment tanks. New mags come in and start in the bottom tanks where the light is the lowest. I move them up as time goes on to acclimate them to higher light conditions. I use a mix of water from a 50 gallon reservoir that has been mixed for a couple of days and water from my DT tank. I like water from the DT because I think adding back some mature cycled water is helpful. This is just a theory and I haven't tested it yet vs. brand new water. I do water changes every day, 250 mg cipro unless the anemone is showing high signs of distress, then 500 mg, but typically that doesn't seem to make a difference. Seems like when cipro isn't helping, no higher concentration of cipro will. Just my own opinion from personal experience. I keep the whole fish room around 80 deg and the tanks with good oxygenation and water flow. Lights are Ocean Revive LEDs.

 

[BClute]

I have a set up in my fish room with layers of QT and treatment tanks. New mags come in and start in the bottom tanks where the light is the lowest. I move them up as time goes on to acclimate them to higher light conditions. I use a mix of water from a 50 gallon reservoir that has been mixed for a couple of days and water from my DT tank. I like water from the DT because I think adding back some mature cycled water is helpful. This is just a theory and I haven't tested it yet vs. brand new water. I do water changes every day, 250 mg cipro unless the anemone is showing high signs of distress, then 500 mg, but typically that doesn't seem to make a difference. Seems like when cipro isn't helping, no higher concentration of cipro will. Just my own opinion from personal experience. I keep the whole fish room around 80 deg and the tanks with good oxygenation and water flow. Lights are Ocean Revive LEDs.

Thanks so much for the response. As far as lighting do you think it makes a big deal at this stage in the game (as far as type/intensity)? I've seen/read about people just using like a regular house CFL. I'm either going to purchase an extra LED setup just for this or I can DIY a setup with some VHOs or PCs that I have laying around. I think using an old MH setup would prob be overkill at this point. Also, even though I've never Done this process I would feel better using 50% DT/cycled water with 50% 24 hour old new water as well.

I find it interesting that increasing the Cipro hasn't had an impact from your experience. Have you ever tried mixing 2 AB's with the Cipro such as Ceph, azithro, Amoxy, Metro(be interested in this one as it great H.pylori and ulcer causing bacteria), or maybe even Doxy?

Lastly how many days min and then max do you do this treatment for?

Thanks a ton for your time. I want to make sure I'm 100% ready for this beauty when it arrives.


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[ChizerBunoi]

HI Gig 'em. Best of luck with these two new mags. I hope they pull through for you.

 

[Gig 'em]

Thanks so much for the response. As far as lighting do you think it makes a big deal at this stage in the game (as far as type/intensity)? I've seen/read about people just using like a regular house CFL. I'm either going to purchase an extra LED setup just for this or I can DIY a setup with some VHOs or PCs that I have laying around. I think using an old MH setup would prob be overkill at this point. Also, even though I've never Done this process I would feel better using 50% DT/cycled water with 50% 24 hour old new water as well.

I find it interesting that increasing the Cipro hasn't had an impact from your experience. Have you ever tried mixing 2 AB's with the Cipro such as Ceph, azithro, Amoxy, Metro(be interested in this one as it great H.pylori and ulcer causing bacteria), or maybe even Doxy?

Lastly how many days min and then max do you do this treatment for?

Thanks a ton for your time. I want to make sure I'm 100% ready for this beauty when it arrives.


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I definitely think lighting plays a big role in the acclimation process. Too much light and you'll stress the anemone, too little and the anemone will wither away. It's just personal judgement on how the anemone looks when it comes in and it's response to light intensity.

I have tried different antibiotics like amoxy and metro with little success (though usually it's my secondary attempt when an anemone isn't responding to cipro, so it's already in poor shape). The use of other antibiotics and the failed results make me believe sometime anemones succumb to viral infections or some sort of biological degradation due to environmental factors. Cipro isn't always the key to success unfortunately [emoji20]

I never treat for less than 7 days, I rarely surpass 7 either since either the anemone is healthy enough for the QT by then or is just going to be a goner.

 

[BClute]

I definitely think lighting plays a big role in the acclimation process. Too much light and you'll stress the anemone, too little and the anemone will wither away. It's just personal judgement on how the anemone looks when it comes in and it's response to light intensity.

I have tried different antibiotics like amoxy and metro with little success (though usually it's my secondary attempt when an anemone isn't responding to cipro, so it's already in poor shape). The use of other antibiotics and the failed results make me believe sometime anemones succumb to viral infections or some sort of biological degradation due to environmental factors. Cipro isn't always the key to success unfortunately [emoji20]

I never treat for less than 7 days, I rarely surpass 7 either since either the anemone is healthy enough for the QT by then or is just going to be a goner.

Very interesting... sounds like you need to get your hands on some anti viral medication. From what I've seen/read it usually seems that the nem responds pretty quickly if the Cipro is going to work. If it doesn't have a positive response to the AB within 36/48 hours maybe you could try dosing an Anti-Viral such as one for the flu, or maybe even one such as a Valtrex. Another med that's OTC that you could try if you're backed In the corner and think the infection might be viral in nature is lysine (amino acid). Lysine has been tested quite a bit and has been shown to have anti-viral properties and Has a VERY high LD.
Thanks again!


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[Gig 'em]

Very interesting... sounds like you need to get your hands on some anti viral medication. From what I've seen/read it usually seems that the nem responds pretty quickly if the Cipro is going to work. If it doesn't have a positive response to the AB within 36/48 hours maybe you could try dosing an Anti-Viral such as one for the flu, or maybe even one such as a Valtrex. Another med that's OTC that you could try if you're backed In the corner and think the infection might be viral in nature is lysine (amino acid). Lysine has been tested quite a bit and has been shown to have anti-viral properties and Has a VERY high LD.
Thanks again!


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Fascinating. Do you have any links to studies that showed lysine was effective against viral infections?