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[BClute]

Fascinating. Do you have any links to studies that showed lysine was effective against viral infections?

I read one a little while ago, let me see if I can find it.


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[THEUNION1]

I read one a little while ago, let me see if I can find it.


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Down the rabbit hole... I've had that happen. Any news on that article?

 

[BClute]

Down the rabbit hole... I've had that happen. Any news on that article?

Ah I totally forgot about this.. all the articles I have found are impacts of lysine on HSV-1 which at the end of the day is still a virus:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3115841/

Here's an excerpt from the abstract:

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symptoms were significantly (p less than 0.05) diminished in severity and healing time was significantly reduced (p less than 0.05). L-Lysine appears to be an effective agent for reduction of occurrence, severity and healing time for recurrent HSV infection"

Also, to be honest while I have never had HSV-1, a couple times I thought I might be getting a sore I started taking lysine and what I thought might be the start of a sore completely went away.. it's highly doubtful that the lysine totally interrupted the viruses and I was prob being a hypochondriac, but who knows.


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[Gig 'em]

Ah I totally forgot about this.. all the articles I have found are impacts of lysine on HSV-1 which at the end of the day is still a virus:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3115841/

Here's an excerpt from the abstract:

"
symptoms were significantly (p less than 0.05) diminished in severity and healing time was significantly reduced (p less than 0.05). L-Lysine appears to be an effective agent for reduction of occurrence, severity and healing time for recurrent HSV infection"

Also, to be honest while I have never had HSV-1, a couple times I thought I might be getting a sore I started taking lysine and what I thought might be the start of a sore completely went away.. it's highly doubtful that the lysine totally interrupted the viruses and I was prob being a hypochondriac, but who knows.


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Hey worth looking into and testing for sure! Antibiotics can only go so far and has had no impact for me on several occasions.

 

[BClute]

Hey worth looking into and testing for sure! Antibiotics can only go so far and has had no impact for me on several occasions.

Also considering fish is said to have naturally occurring l-lysine levels I doubt high concentrations would have a negative impact on the nem. Also, taking into consideration it's an amino acid, but too much of anything can be negative. Dosing high levels of lysine I would hypothesize would either help the nem if infection is viral in nature or not do anything .


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[OrionN]

Virus are tricky little things. We human have minimal success with antivirals. Tamiflu is one. Most of the other antiviral meds worth a lot more than their weight in gold so the chance of finding them in fish tanks is zilcho.

 

[Gig 'em]

Also considering fish is said to have naturally occurring l-lysine levels I doubt high concentrations would have a negative impact on the nem. Also, taking into consideration it's an amino acid, but too much of anything can be negative. Dosing high levels of lysine I would hypothesize would either help the nem if infection is viral in nature or not do anything .


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Yeah I've tried this method too, adding a clownfish to my magnifica QT tank. As you said, the level of lysine present on the clownfish may not be enough to make an impact. Maybe adding more than one clown would help, it's worth a trial for sure.

 

[BClute]

Yeah I've tried this method too, adding a clownfish to my magnifica QT tank. As you said, the level of lysine present on the clownfish may not be enough to make an impact. Maybe adding more than one clown would help, it's worth a trial for sure.

No what I meant is the levels of lysine found in the fish. Meaning like when a nem ingests a fish it is ingesting higher concentrations of lysine from the meat.


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[Gig 'em]

No what I meant is the levels of lysine found in the fish. Meaning like when a nem ingests a fish it is ingesting higher concentrations of lysine from the meat.


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Gotcha, well that may be difficult since when mags are weakened and sickly it's hard to get them to eat.

 

[BClute]

Multiple magnificas

Gotcha, well that may be difficult since when mags are weakened and sickly it's hard to get them to eat.

I just meant that since lysine is naturally occurring and nems eat fish who naturally have high levels of lysine it shouldn't be detrimental to the health of the nem if one doses lysine in their hospital tank in high levels since it's a naturally occurring amino acid that they're exposed to. I don't know the genome of nems and if they utilize lysine in protein synth, but we at least know that it shouldn't be poisonous as they are exposed to it naturally. Sorry for any confusion.

Someone send me a Mag and I'll test it out haha.

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[Mirror Pond]

Any updates on the two newest mags?

 

[Gig 'em]

Unfortunately they became unresponsive to cipro treatments. I'm pretty sure there is a virus or pathogen that is not affected by cipro so I'm shutting down the system and sterilizing it. I'll restart it in the future when I have a little more free time in town