My Breeding attempt - Perculas:
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subman719
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Nanz, while I found it not uncommon for them to hover around the bottom and sometimes not move at all at times, if you have bright lighting above them, it could cause this behavior. I read this in the book, "Clownfishes". When they are first born, their eyesight is very limited but sensitive. If you do have lighting on them, try turning it off and see what happens.
dazed
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cool; sometimes mine do that as well and it worries me to, I like to see them up in the water column that way i know they are hunting & hopefully eating. If you are at 1.022 for the larvae tank; what is the sg of your rotifer culture? They can be shocked if the change is more than .007 i believe it is.
dazed
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So last Friday i was busy doing wc's drinking beer etc. etc. I have gotten some requests and pm's about different stuff so i managed to remember to grab my camera and take some shots of how everything is setup for now, I still plan on changing things around but for now here is what it looks like:
For those that follow along with this thread my setup is out in my garage and it creates some issues from time to time.
In this picture is where allot of the stuff is:
On the bottom shelf is my rotifer cultures currently (2) of them, above that are (2) 5g tanks used for larvae, next to them is a 10g tank being used as a growout tank, on the top shelf i have all my power strips, air pump & bbs hatcheries as well. To the left is my ro/di unit the gray brute container is used to store pre mixed saltwater and the blue container is my stored ro/di water.
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Currently on my workbench I also have a 5g tank that contains my motley crew of misfits from the first batch i was able to keep alive they are getting to be close to a year old.
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I also have a 40g tank that has a bonded pair of GSM in it, still nothing happening with this pair but hopefully soon.
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For those that follow along with this thread my setup is out in my garage and it creates some issues from time to time.
In this picture is where allot of the stuff is:
On the bottom shelf is my rotifer cultures currently (2) of them, above that are (2) 5g tanks used for larvae, next to them is a 10g tank being used as a growout tank, on the top shelf i have all my power strips, air pump & bbs hatcheries as well. To the left is my ro/di unit the gray brute container is used to store pre mixed saltwater and the blue container is my stored ro/di water.
Currently on my workbench I also have a 5g tank that contains my motley crew of misfits from the first batch i was able to keep alive they are getting to be close to a year old.
I also have a 40g tank that has a bonded pair of GSM in it, still nothing happening with this pair but hopefully soon.
rwhitmore1987
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I've had my percula pair for about 2 years and I have not gotten them to breed until I started feeding the cyclop-eze flakes. Sure enough, they started laying eggs. Using this food could help as a breeding stimulant.
dazed
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We seem to be always talking about maintenance, rotifers, greenwater etc. I have found that these clips & gravity work wonders for me, during wc's or when i am lowering the sg of new larvae i take a container with the water i am going to use and place it on the top shelf of my setup, start a siphon and clip the end on the tube to the side of the tank what this does is allow the water to sheet down gently into the tank and the larvae seem unaffected. Hard to tell in this picture but one tank is being drained and another tank is being refilled.
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After the wc's were complete i greened up the tank of the new batch which has a bunch of rot's in it.
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approximately 24 hours later and you can see how much the water has cleared.
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After the wc's were complete i greened up the tank of the new batch which has a bunch of rot's in it.
approximately 24 hours later and you can see how much the water has cleared.
, maybe I should try cyclopeez flakes... :rolleye1: hahaha
jmadison
rebmeM deretsigeR
Do you think dosing vodka might loosen her up a bit? HEHEHEHE
Nope but i've been takin notes via your thread here this whole time while waiting for these (we'll call them both guys for now). I know it could still be years ffrom now, but what the hell right.
whens momma due again?
Nope but i've been takin notes via your thread here this whole time while waiting for these (we'll call them both guys for now). I know it could still be years ffrom now, but what the hell right.
whens momma due again?
jmadison
rebmeM deretsigeR
Bummer, looks like theres some shelf space there man<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15006094#post15006094 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dazed
The vodka sure works everytime
Good so you have notes now all you have to do is not do what i do and you will be just fine.
Not sure i have to look at my notes there are eggs in the tank/tile, but i don't have any empty tanks right now.
. Have to hit up the petco $1/gallon sale next time!And just FYI you're doing PLENTY right man! keep it up!
Nanz
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Wow.. That’s really green water. I’m only putting in a couple drops of rotifer feast into my fry tank. My rotifer tanks have more green in them but I was under the impression you don’t want that much phyto in the fry tank. Interesting...
So far everything seems to be alive. I lost maybe 10 yesterday but that’s better than the last two batches where I lost close to 90% on the second day.
I use a small blue moonlight to light the tank and I keep it completely covered with towels. I think they were on the bottom because that is where the phyto or rotifer feast falls to when I put it in the tank.
I feed my fry by taking 1 liter of rotifers and run it through a 52 micron sieve. I feed the rotifers the rotifer diet 30 mins before I harvest them. I then rinse the rotifers with fresh rotifer water that has the same salinity (1.017) and pH (7.8) of the rotifer culture. Then I take some of the fry water and wash them into the fry tank. Then I place 3 drops of rotifer diet into the tank. The green rotifer diet just drops to the bottom of my tank and settles on the bottom. I wonder if I should increase my bubbles from my airstone? My tank is a 5 gallon hex with 3 gallons of water in it, 1.021 S.G. and 81 degrees.
So far everything seems to be alive. I lost maybe 10 yesterday but that’s better than the last two batches where I lost close to 90% on the second day.
I use a small blue moonlight to light the tank and I keep it completely covered with towels. I think they were on the bottom because that is where the phyto or rotifer feast falls to when I put it in the tank.
I feed my fry by taking 1 liter of rotifers and run it through a 52 micron sieve. I feed the rotifers the rotifer diet 30 mins before I harvest them. I then rinse the rotifers with fresh rotifer water that has the same salinity (1.017) and pH (7.8) of the rotifer culture. Then I take some of the fry water and wash them into the fry tank. Then I place 3 drops of rotifer diet into the tank. The green rotifer diet just drops to the bottom of my tank and settles on the bottom. I wonder if I should increase my bubbles from my airstone? My tank is a 5 gallon hex with 3 gallons of water in it, 1.021 S.G. and 81 degrees.
dazed
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15006952#post15006952 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmadison
Bummer, looks like theres some shelf space there man
And just FYI you're doing PLENTY right man! keep it up!
Funny you should mention the petco sale as i did just that a couple of weeks ago; I picked up 2 20g long tanks, no tops or anything just the tanks. They are sitting out in my garage i still can't decide if i want to drill them or have them drilled or set them up as a stand alone tank.
Choices choices i could put a divider in them and have 2 10g areas for growout, i could just use them as they are, i was even thinking about taking my pair of GSM out of the 40g and putting them in one and putting my breeding pair of perc's into the other & connect the two tanks to a sump that currently is not in use.
I still think i need to build a new rack system so that i can put all of the tanks together in one place but i have not decided what i want the final setup to look like just yet.
rkelman
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Nanz: If your larvae are on the bottom add more Rotifer Diet. Mine sit on the bottom or stick to the sides if the water isn't green enough.
I also use Rotifer Diet but I have no issues with it staying suspended... Have you considered diluting it in freshwater? That's what I do with mine and it works good. I think if its too thick it doesn't dilute well.
I also use Rotifer Diet but I have no issues with it staying suspended... Have you considered diluting it in freshwater? That's what I do with mine and it works good. I think if its too thick it doesn't dilute well.
dazed
New member
Yep nice green soup i usually have a hard time finding my larvae for the first couple of days, unless they are at the surface, I don't bother with covering the tank sides anymore i have not noticed that it makes that much of a difference, the green water pulls them off the sides of the glass and into the water column to feed.
If you are noticing that the added phyto is settling to the bottom of the tank i would crank the air up a bit more to get it into suspension. You could also try and take a water sample from the tank and add your phyto to that and mix it up real well and then add it to the larvae tank.
If you are noticing that the added phyto is settling to the bottom of the tank i would crank the air up a bit more to get it into suspension. You could also try and take a water sample from the tank and add your phyto to that and mix it up real well and then add it to the larvae tank.
subman719
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I don't get it??? Every time I added the slightest amount of "green" anything to my larvae tank/container, I suffered devistating loses, usually total losses! Also, every time I didn't strain and rinse my rots, bam!!!.... Losses! I just don't get it? Maybe it's some weird gravitational pull or something in my little part of the planet?
