My Breeding attempt - Perculas:

Update for me well let's see i am going to sum up the last 3 batches so here we go #1 had 4 surviors now only 3 as i made a mistake while feeding them the other day; i knocked the glass cover into the tank and it either hit him or spooked him bad enough that he just well he was dead.

#2 has around 75 i think left and they all seem to be doing well eating bbs, & oto a.

#3 was ready to go but i only have 2 5g tanks at the moment so i added the (3) from #1 in with the ones from #2 and they all seem fine.

the latest group hatched yesterday and still had the morning die off issues as before as well as not a full hatch as over 50% of them turned white on the tile.

I need to order some methylene blue and see if it helps out with the aeration issue that i now seem to be having. the latest batch are in greenwater & consuming rotifers.
 
:wave: Hi guys, long time-no visit! LOL I just thought I'd poke my head in and give my two cents worth, (and we all know how much two cents will get ya')! Anyway, I've found that I was having better success keeping my rots s/g around 1.020 and larvae around 1.023. I've also removed the heaters from my rot tanks because they were multiplying out of control and I found that I had to constantly do water changes and dump some to prevent crashes. I also found that the only success I had with feeding the larvae was to enrich a small amount of rots in a cup with nano about 1/2 hour before feeding. I then strained and rinsed the rots before feeding. Every other method I tried caused MAJOR casualties. I also was doing 50% water changes 2x a day on the larvae using the main tank water for the first two weeks. I do, however, want to mention that I was only keeping the larvae in a small quart container on my desk with no air or circulation because I was only getting about a dozen to hatch. Out of all my efforts and "trying to follow the rules", I currently only have 7 "teenagers" left from two batches, but they are healthy. Except for one who has "scoliosis". (he's bent)??? :confused:

Thanks for letting me "peek in"! :bigeyes:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14964391#post14964391 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by subman719
:wave: Hi guys, long time-no visit! LOL I just thought I'd poke my head in and give my two cents worth, (and we all know how much two cents will get ya')! Anyway, I've found that I was having better success keeping my rots s/g around 1.020 and larvae around 1.023. I've also removed the heaters from my rot tanks because they were multiplying out of control and I found that I had to constantly do water changes and dump some to prevent crashes. I also found that the only success I had with feeding the larvae was to enrich a small amount of rots in a cup with nano about 1/2 hour before feeding. I then strained and rinsed the rots before feeding. Every other method I tried caused MAJOR casualties. I also was doing 50% water changes 2x a day on the larvae using the main tank water for the first two weeks. I do, however, want to mention that I was only keeping the larvae in a small quart container on my desk with no air or circulation because I was only getting about a dozen to hatch. Out of all my efforts and "trying to follow the rules", I currently only have 7 "teenagers" left from two batches, but they are healthy. Except for one who has "scoliosis". (he's bent)??? :confused:

Thanks for letting me "peek in"! :bigeyes:
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:wavehand: Nice to hear from you.

"I also was doing 50% water changes 2x a day on the larvae using the main tank water for the first two weeks"

WOW is all i have to say you have more free time then me, lol.

I like the comment "he's bent"

My first batch ever is closing in on one year old there are 7 of them and let's just say that they are a bit different
:lol:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14964029#post14964029 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dazed
Sorry to hear about your losses; Maybe you moved them to soon, and how did you transfer them? with a net? Did you try & match the water parameters between the two tanks.

For what it's worth we just had a random heat spell hit my area a couple of weeks ago and my tanks due to their location pushed to 87-88 deg. for 2 days, i was fortunate though and did not loose any larvae so i don't know if the 83 deg. temperature was the issue.
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Yea, I tried to match the parameters and I siphoned them out of the tank. They seemed fine in the bucket when I siphoned them but when they hit the water they were corn flakes :(

Three are doing good though. Im waiting for my otohime to come in from reef nutrition. Hopefully my next batch will be better.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14964583#post14964583 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rkelman
Mine is at 80deg 1.020
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First off let me say I know very little outside whats been on this thread about raising clown fry, and am more or less here for moral support(if any lol) and to see the success as I hope to one day give this a shot.
My question is why do you want this salinity level to raise fry? In nature wouldnt it be higher than this? Its not like the fry can get special treatment in the wild. Is this just something developed out of trial and error for captively raising fry? Sorry was just curious. Thanks
 
I keep mine at 1.020 because it saves money on salt. I've heard it can be done at 1.010 but I've never tried. I may in the future. I'm not sure about the others but I go through alot of salt.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14966265#post14966265 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmadison
First off let me say I know very little outside whats been on this thread about raising clown fry, and am more or less here for moral support(if any lol) and to see the success as I hope to one day give this a shot.
My question is why do you want this salinity level to raise fry? In nature wouldnt it be higher than this? Its not like the fry can get special treatment in the wild. Is this just something developed out of trial and error for captively raising fry? Sorry was just curious. Thanks
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My reasoning is that you want the salinity to be as close to the salinity of the rotifers so they don't shock when they are added to the larva tank for food. If your live rotifers die when they are added then they will just add to the pollution of the tank and the clowns will not eat them and starve fairly soon. I am no expert but this is why I am so concerned about the salinity.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14965978#post14965978 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Nanz
Yea, I tried to match the parameters and I siphoned them out of the tank. They seemed fine in the bucket when I siphoned them but when they hit the water they were corn flakes :(

Three are doing good though. Im waiting for my otohime to come in from reef nutrition. Hopefully my next batch will be better.
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If you siphoned them out of the tank the ride down the tube probably just freaked them out & they croaked. I use a small specimen container when transferring mine from one tank to another, i also always try and move a small group at a time, seems to work for me.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14966265#post14966265 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmadison
First off let me say I know very little outside whats been on this thread about raising clown fry, and am more or less here for moral support(if any lol) and to see the success as I hope to one day give this a shot.
My question is why do you want this salinity level to raise fry? In nature wouldnt it be higher than this? Its not like the fry can get special treatment in the wild. Is this just something developed out of trial and error for captively raising fry? Sorry was just curious. Thanks
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moral support you bet :beer:
with all the issues i have had if it were not for the help & support here i would have given up a while ago i think :lol:

from what i have read & done rotifers can live in a wide range of sg sure it's different in the wild but they seem to reproduce better at the lowered sg.

For me i run the lower sg until they are moved to a growout tank after that they are adjusted to the same sg that my dt tank is at, I have a 44g brute container that i use for wc on my dt, once they are off the rotifers it's not much of an issue, i guess i could be saving on some salt but for me & my time schedule it's just easier to use the same mix for all of the tanks.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14967503#post14967503 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rkelman
I keep mine at 1.020 because it saves money on salt. I've heard it can be done at 1.010 but I've never tried. I may in the future. I'm not sure about the others but I go through alot of salt.
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Yeah i know i go through allot of salt as well, reminds me i have 4 more buckets coming today.
 
Thanks guys, i guess theres a simple answer for that afterall. I didnt know if it were more about the fry than that, but I suppose they are born into the lower sg so what do they care.
Thanks again, and I wish you continued good luck!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14969022#post14969022 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dazed
If you siphoned them out of the tank the ride down the tube probably just freaked them out & they croaked. I use a small specimen container when transferring mine from one tank to another, i also always try and move a small group at a time, seems to work for me.
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That very well could have been the problem. I will try to move small amounts at a time like you suggested. Thanks :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14969577#post14969577 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmadison
Thanks guys, i guess theres a simple answer for that afterall. I didnt know if it were more about the fry than that, but I suppose they are born into the lower sg so what do they care.
Thanks again, and I wish you continued good luck!
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Well mine do start out in the higher sg from my dt, and then a day or two later (depends on when i have time) i lower the sg.
 
wow dazed i just read through the thread and you are doing some really great work and i think it's awesome that you are sharing your story. can we get some updated pics of the garage and the setup of the tanks?

keep up the great work and updates. thanks
travis
 
Travis; Thank you for the kind words :beer:
I have had some ups & downs along the way for sure but it has been a great experience and allot of fun at times as well, I can try and snap some pictures of everyone over the weekend.
 
Dazed.... Good job,Just poked my head in and saw you were doing great.I read you way back when you started.You can a long way baby.
 
kerusso316, Thanks for the complement i remember you posting way back before the split, I still don't have my numbers where i would like them to be but yeah i guess i have made some head way over the last couple of months.
Those two fish in your avatar are stunning for sure.
 
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