My C. marginalis

Peter,have not been on site for quite sometime,but have followed many B,fly threads.How about not doing anything,as far as chemicals go.If she is still eating,and you have done regular water changes,as im sure you have,then with correct salininty,temp,ph,why not let her own immune system solve this issue?As long as she is eating throughout the day,allow her immune system to operate at peak efficency.



Bill.
 
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He ate very well today, so I'm optimistic.

Bill, yeah, normally I'd think that way, but with butterflies, it's a bit more of a gamble. And at $170, I guess I'm just extra nervous with this guy :D I figured prazi could only help though. Copper would only be if I definitely diagnose something that it can treat.
 
Peter,

How often are you changing the QT water? While catching up in this thread, the first thing I thought of was ammonia.

James.
 
I change water about once a week. It's a pretty well established tank...live rock, algae, hangon aquaclear. I kept a large pair of clarkiis and a saddleback butterfly in there for over 6 months. The marginalis was being fed less than those fish, but nonetheless, you are correct, it could have been a small ammonia spike. I'm watching it more closely, and adding Prime from time to time just in case.


Marie, the aquaclear flows into the tank and breaks up the surface pretty well, plus a have a small powerhead in the tank for added circulation.
 
I change water about once a week. It's a pretty well established tank...live rock, algae, hangon aquaclear. I kept a large pair of clarkiis and a saddleback butterfly in there for over 6 months. The marginalis was being fed less than those fish, but nonetheless, you are correct, it could have been a small ammonia spike. I'm watching it more closely, and adding Prime from time to time just in case.


Marie, the aquaclear flows into the tank and breaks up the surface pretty well, plus a have a small powerhead in the tank for added circulation.
I figured you have plenty of oxygenation, I was just thinking of giving extra - like how they do hospital patients.
 
Oh I see, like adding an airstone. Let me dig up one of my extra airpumps. I can do that.
 
Hmm, actually, I don't think I can do that with prazi in the water. Won't it create a foam layer on the water surface?
 
That sounds plausible, I don't know. I've only fed prazi orally never had to put it in the water like your situation.
 
It's got the consistency of Drano, and I know it'll make a skimmer go absolutely nuts.
 
Well, he's doing great. He absolutely rips into food now (especially raw shrimp), is still spotless, and is learning to eat more and more in one sitting
 
Unfortunately I am really not sure, and probably won't ever know. But, my guess is an ammonia spike. Here's my theory: I did a total water change...removed the rock, cleaned the tank, put all the rock back. I think algae that ended up on the underside of rocks put back "wrong side up" died off, and caused an ammonia spike that I wasn't expecting soon after a full water exchange, and therefore missed. I've taken to cleaning the sponge in the aquaclear every few days now (in salt water of course).
 
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Well either way thanks for your reply and glad to hear hes doing better. Will he go in the 150 eventually, if so how long will your QT period be with this fish?
 
Not sure yet. He may go in the reef, but more than likely he'll go into the FOWLR. Either way, I need to decide by June, since I don't want my tank sitter to have to worry about the fish in the QT.
 
Hi Peter,

Been following secretly ;) I suspected water quality issues all along. I've had the same problems with my fish, especially with Centropyges. Whenever water quality issues would arise they would go off feed, act funny and hangout in PVC pipes more. I'm glad to hear it is eating again. Be careful about keeping the fish in QT too long, sterile environments seem to promote sickness/issues. Pull the fish when your QT schedule is finished. No need to keep the fish in QT past it's quarantine time period.
 
Thanks for the kind words, marie.

Yeah, Sean, thank you so much for the PM's!! sorry for not replying yet..been super busy. :(

The QT tank isn't sterile at all, actually. It's a well established tank (years) that, as I mentioned earlier, housed a few fish for a long time, which is why the ammonia spike sort of surprised me. But, I didn't factor in dying algae, hence my theory. My lengthy QT of this fish, at this point, has everything to do with beoing able to compete for food, and little to do with disease.
 
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