My CBB Died :(

They knew. I'm not exactly a noob to reef tanks. I'm not getting into that debate again.

Being a "noob" or not has nothing to do with it. I have many years experience and still consider myself a "noob" in some areas. This hobby has evolved, in large part, because of the trial and errors of past and present reefers. There are some things that you simply can't change. Patience is key to a successful reef setup. There should be little to debate in terms of the introduction of a CBB to a new and relatively unestablished tank. The amount of information available on this subject is endless. Just because a tank has cycled doesn't mean that it is mature and stable. New setups go through many changes and swings through the first 6 months. In my own setup, the rocks were cooked for 3 months. The tank was filled, the rock placed in the tank, and a clean up crew was added about 4 weeks later. A couple of weeks after that, I added my first fish and a couple of zoas. After my tank was setup, like you, I had no detectable spikes, but my previous experiences has taught me to be patient. Who knows, maybe a tank setup at Mike's house matures faster than anywhere else on the planet. What I am pretty sure about though is that if 20 people attempted to introduce this fish to a new setup, it would be lucky if even 1 survived.

Also, are you saying that FAOIS supported the purchase of this fish knowing it was going to be placed in a brand new setup? If so, I would love for John to chime in and give his reasoning for supporting the purchase.
 
I don't think I saw him say that he got it from John. Not that it really matters...the fish is still dead either way. We know our tanks, we can't hold other people responsible when stuff dies. They are animals after all and will ALL die eventually. ;)
 
Also, are you saying that FAOIS supported the purchase of this fish knowing it was going to be placed in a brand new setup? If so, I would love for John to chime in and give his reasoning for supporting the purchase.

John wasn't aware of the tank's history, asked his opinion, or involved with the purchase in anyway. Mike is not a new customer nor inexperienced. His stated objective to my staff of giving a timid fish time to adjust before other possibly more aggressive tank mates were added is reasonable. The fish was under our care for over a week, nearly two, and ate mysis ravenously since the second day. No disease or abnormal behavior was ever observed. We did our job please leave us out of the drama.
 
John wasn't aware of the tank's history, asked his opinion, or involved with the purchase in anyway. Mike is not a new customer nor inexperienced. His stated objective to my staff of giving a timid fish time to adjust before other possibly more aggressive tank mates were added is reasonable. The fish was under our care for over a week, nearly two, and ate mysis ravenously since the second day. No disease or abnormal behavior was ever observed. We did our job please leave us out of the drama.

The only reason I mentioned it was because Mike implied in his post that FAOIS knew that his tank was only setup for 2 weeks. I had a hard time believing that John would have supported this purchase so I asked for him to chime in. After reading the response from FAOIS, it is clear that they did not know about the condition of Mike's tank.
 
Got him a week and a half ago at FAOIS. He ate at FAOIS.

I don't think I saw him say that he got it from John.


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Good catch John. As I said, I didn't THINK I SAW him post it, I didn't say he DIDN'T post it. ;) I wasn't going back through a 28 page thread about a dead fish to try to find an exact post. And OMG that tank is large. Too bad the sides don't have viewable panels...I'd look into it. HA!
 
Uh oh here comes the tang police. Dude, this is the one thing I dislike about this site. A bunch of I told you so's and I would of never's. Sorry to hear about your loss but keep trying. If I would have listen to most of these guys I would still only have live rock in my tank. Just saying. But 51 percent of the people here rock. The others, well you'll see. Instead of telling you some helpful ideas they'll shoot ya down. Makes me thirsty just thinking bout it.

Id like to point out that a Copperband Butterfly is not a Tang haha but nice try anyway. I actually don't see anyone putting anyone down, merely stating the facts, blunt or not. That fish is very difficult and your tank is 2 weeks old. There are many things for which we cannot test as someone else stated.

Sorry about your fish it sucks losing a pet, just keep your head up, and try again when you feel you are ready. Thats all you can do. To each their own.
 
IMO live rock from an established healthy reef tank will have more bacteria then say rock from your LFS. So in essence moving an already established tank is not really the same thing. Live/Old tank water does and will have bacteria in it just not much to really matter. Bacteria we all know is not free swimming so there will NOT be much in the water itself but only small trace amounts. Every situation is different and what is good for my tank might not be for yours. You live you learn, I failed a few times before I got it right too.

edit:
this thread might seem like it is beating a dead horse but there is valuable information in it and a good one imo.
 
Id like to point out that a Copperband Butterfly is not a Tang haha but nice try anyway. I actually don't see anyone putting anyone down, merely stating the facts, blunt or not. That fish is very difficult and your tank is 2 weeks old. There are many things for which we cannot test as someone else stated.

Sorry about your fish it sucks losing a pet, just keep your head up, and try again when you feel you are ready. Thats all you can do. To each their own.

IMO live rock from an established healthy reef tank will have more bacteria then say rock from your LFS. So in essence moving an already established tank is not really the same thing. Live/Old tank water does and will have bacteria in it just not much to really matter. Bacteria we all know is not free swimming so there will NOT be much in the water itself but only small trace amounts. Every situation is different and what is good for my tank might not be for yours. You live you learn, I failed a few times before I got it right too.

edit:
this thread might seem like it is beating a dead horse but there is valuable information in it and a good one imo.

I agree with both of the above
 
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