My own AEFW (Acro Eating Flatworms) images

Thanks clkwrk.

Well, it sounds like the fluke tabs are doing a good job, so far. Will these work on monti nudis? I treated my monti's with levamisole with a lot better results than the acros (and haven't seen any signs of the nudis since the treatments), but if somethign a little less aggressive will do the same, I may need to get some just to have on hand as a cure all...
 
clkwrk:

You may have something here with the emerald crabs. I have yet to find a single egg cluster in anyof the dead corals I've had now or a few months ago when I first got them. That is one of the perplexing things to me, but you may be very well right about the crabs or other critters taking them for lunch. It may explain the 5-6 months of no flatworms before showing signs again all of the sudden.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8115149#post8115149 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dgasmd
clkwrk:

You may have something here with the emerald crabs. I have yet to find a single egg cluster in anyof the dead corals I've had now or a few months ago when I first got them. That is one of the perplexing things to me, but you may be very well right about the crabs or other critters taking them for lunch. It may explain the 5-6 months of no flatworms before showing signs again all of the sudden.
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Why would you see egg clusters on a dead specimen? I might just be misunderstanding in defining death. Do you mean that you expected to find eggs on corals that had already been stripped of most of thier tissue? The flatworms normally seem to lay the eggs very close to a tissue source and if most of the coral is consumed I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't lay eggs at all till more tissue is found.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8116622#post8116622 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dgasmd
while they were going downhill and still alive chief.
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Not dead I only lost a couple colonies most just got munched on and some got munched on alot. Also eggs can be found on a dead colonie because it takes more than one day for eggs to hatch and corals can rtn at the last monent in less than a day. Eggs will always be in a receeded area as the eggs need something to hold onto as the coral tissue will not work for them .
 
Also the emrald in the coral before it ever started to receed much . They were laying eggs right at the bottom of the coral and that where I found the crab most times. That colony was very thin and open. So it was easy for the crab to hand out in at night time. I even observed it picking at the coral but I could not see what it was picking at .
 
well i think i'm getting the courage to try something. i have not confirmed AEFW"s on any corals but a nana and a unknown tricolor have browned out in the last couple months and one is receeding from the base. could be the po4 media i switch out regularly or the AZNO3 as some hvae seen similar responses. guess now i'm thinking i should just do it and make SURE i'm free before i get any losses. it will be a PITA but worth it i guess.

so let me get this straight you guys are doing the fluke tabs now instead of the levamisole and it works better/easier on the corals but KILLS (confirmed) the AEFW's?? you used these tabs right?

4tabs per 5gallons? for 30min worked? the 50min work better or more detrimental?

i know there was some debate if this actually killed them since they layed flat on the bottom or if they would recover in good water if they made it there. any news on that?

just trying to sift through ALL the info, debate, and discussion. also trying to find a fix that work completely and w/ little harm to the corals

Lunchbucket
 
Lunchbucket

Lunchbucket

Can you take one of the coral out and dip it in a iodine solution like i did to see if you have AEFW first .
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8116851#post8116851 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by clkwrk
Eggs will always be in a receeded area as the eggs need something to hold onto as the coral tissue will not work for them .
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Not always true....I had the fw's lay a huge clutch of eggs on live tissue at the bottom of a colony. It sucks b/c I had to scrub all the tissue off to get the eggs off. Heres a crappy pic and all the dark mass is eggs. It's hard to tell from this pic, but the tissue was allive.
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Thats the first I have seen out of everyones pics....Although I see what looks like green from pO4 wicking and eggs on that area
 
Well, I am coming to the end of week # 4(dip 5) in my quarentine period. I have not seen any signs of AEFW's since the first dip and also have not seen any signs of red bugs since the first(and only) dip with interceptor.

All of the valida frags that were attacked are showing huge signs of imrovement. They are getting color back in the tips and starting to grow bases. Some of my stag's that had bite marks are now totally healed and look like nothing ever happened.

I have not seen ONE single bad effect to the corals thus far from the fluke tab dip. No color loss, actually color gain from the fw's bieng gone. No STN or RTN. I have tested frags of millepora and valida in the dip for over two hours and they have shown no negative side effects. I have chosen a 20 minute dip b/c that is all it takes to kill all of the fw's (they're actually dead quicker than that) but if you just want to set your mind at ease you can nuke them for a while and it won't hurt them. I can honestly say that the only corlal I have lost so far from the begining of this is the base and 2 branches of a valida colony which both died directly from the fw's.

I am at the point now where I have a bunch of other tests I want to do on them but I haven't seen any since day 1 of the treatment. I am about to go hunting in the fish stores to find an infected colony. :strooper:

Lunchbucket, So far 5 out of 5 people on this thread have tried it and had the SAME results as me..... dead AEFW's! I have a feeling that this is gonna help alot of people. The link you posted is what you want :). There so cheap I say give it a try. If you want a quick way to see if you have them, just blast a coral with your power head. It won't hurt it and youll see those suckers fly off if you have them. Good luck!
 
Is AEFW getting more common? I'm scared to even add corals anymore. I don't want to get stuck with red bugs or AEFW. Seems like both can be a big pain. How do you remove extremely large corals? How come you can't treat the whole tank?
 
jay24k, what I did with large colonies was snap them off where they are attached. Then I used a chisel to remove the encrusted area from the rock. Then put the coral in a treatment tank and the rock back in the display. So far, nobody has come up with an in-tank treatment that will not also risk killing other things like fish, etc. Hopefully, in a matter of time an in-tank treatment will become available.
 
I've read about the RB treatment which isn't bad except killing cleaner shrimp and crabs. I just see how much of pain you guys go through on the AEFW.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8118974#post8118974 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Travis
In the pic above, it appears that the eggs are on an area where the tissue recently receded.
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I know thats what it looks like, thats why I said it was a crappy pic. It's so blurry you can't see the actual tissue.

Jay24k, I would keep watching your corals very closely, in particular any tri colors or validas for tiny bite marks. I have a feeling alot more people in town here have them and just havent realized it yet, I shop alot of the same places as everybody else :). Hope you don't get them though, they suck.
 
The only place I've bought corals from was SITC and that was several months ago. I got some frags from Jon who broke his tank down and that is pretty much it. I'm lucky to have a full stocked tank with no room and no issues. I macro the corals monthly so I'd definetly notice RB or recession from AEFW. I bought interceptor though and every new coral if I get any will be a 6 hr dip.
 
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