My own AEFW (Acro Eating Flatworms) images

Interesting theory, beapeams... One thing to think about is that every unsuccessful treatment may be making it harder to eradicate them due to immunity.
 
I remove all the eggs I can before treatment. I made sure(99.9999%) there were no eggs transfered into my QT. In reality, the chances of one of these fw's mutating its gene sequence into a super fw is verrrrryyyyyy slim. You would also be able to notice right away when your next dip had no effect on them whatsoever. Also, DON'T trade if you have them!!!!!:)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8068479#post8068479 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Stoney Mahony
Also, DON'T trade if you have them!!!!!:)
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I hope nobody really needed to hear that:mixed:
 
Well the third treatment is finished and I am definately loving it. No evidence of any fw's on my corals or in the bucket after the dip. I wandered if there were any microscopic babies in there so I let the water settle for 2 hours and siphoned the water out from the top until there was about an inch of water. Took 5 samples from different spots in bottom of the bucket and placed them under my scope. Nothing but some detritus. No evidence of ANY fw's.

Here are some pics of the valida frags. They are healing nicely and starting to grow new ends where they were fragged.
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So Stoney.....have you seen any signs of FW's since you started treatment? Do you have an updated pic of the valida that was missing everything but the polyps?

I have just about everything together for my 30 cube....this project is taking forever it seems.....most likely I can start treatment tomorrow......have you lost any colonies to the Fluke Tabs?

By the way.......your corals look great considering what they have been through lately! ;)
 
I'lll take another pic of that valida frag tommorrow morning and post it up. To answer your question, no...no signs of flat worms or red bugs since my first dip. I havent lost any colonies to the fluke tab dip. The only one I fragged up was the Valida and thats b/c the fw's had decimated the colony before I noticed them and I really didn't expect it(or the frags) to live. To my surprise I havent lost one frag yet, even though there in a completely new system and some are missing tissue from the fw's, the polyps are still present and fully extended.

All corals show FPE within about 45 minutes after being placed back in the QT tank, even though your plunging and dipping and doing all that aggervation to the coral. I left a valida frag in the dip for three hours today and it showed FPE in less than an hour. I don't think you will have any problems with it hurting your corals. I would definately do a trial dip before you dip every single coral but at the dosage I described, I have seen absolutly no harm whatsoever.

One thing I changed is I added a small nano cube pump to the 5gal bucket with the fluke tab dip. The tabs stay suspended for a while but when your dipping corals for hours, it falls out of suspension and gathers on the bottom. Any small pump for minimal circulation will work good. OR you can just mix it back up with something in between dips, that will probobly work just as good. I even had a bunch of the fluke stuff fall out of suspension and was half way covering a valida frag. It did no harm to it. I love this stuff, I hope you get the same results!!!!!!!!! Good luck !!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8072192#post8072192 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
So Stoney.....have you seen any signs of FW's since you started treatment? Do you have an updated pic of the valida that was missing everything but the polyps?
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Here is a pic of the valida frag I took a few hours ago, I can already see hints of flourescent green showing up in the coralites:
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I think this Tort is doing fine after 3 dips and being moved into a brand new tank:
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:D :eek1:
 
Well I tried the Stoney Method today. Let me tell you after I completed the process and removed enough water out of the 5 gallon bucket to see what was at the bottom clearly, I was shocked. It must have been at least a hundred AEFW laying dead at the bottom. I let the bucket sit for at least two hours after that and it appeared to be no movement from the AEFW. They were really beginning to move fast on my Acro's. I did a treatment today just to buy me time. My QT won't have adequate lighting until this weekend. So I did the treatment and had to put them back in my display. I will repeat the in a week and move them over to the QT. i did see polyp extension from the majority of them within a hour of going back in the tank. I inspected all corals and saw no visible sign of AEFW after treatment. Hopefully this will give me just enough time to get the QT together. Like I stated before I just started SPS a few months ago, and all my corals are still pretty small (they all fit in the bottom of the 5 gallon bucket). I really feel for those who have had SPS tanks for years and get AEFW, it must seem like an impossible task.

Thanks Stoney for your inital trial and error. I will keep you guys posted. I have a Tri color (blue/purplish tips, tan body, and green polyps) and a blue tort that got hit rhe worst. I will snap shots of them and keep a photo diary of them. hopefully they recover. But I am not holding out hope. I feel the rest will they were just starting to show signs of damage at the base.
 
I tried it as well on a few test pieces.....while I did not get any AEFW's (I inspected each frag over and over) from them I was amazed as to how many Red Planaria I had in the rocks they were attached to.....they came out/off like crazy in the dip (I did 2 tabs vs. 4 per 5gal just to be safe....I will do the full 4 next time). I am wondering if I only have Red Planaria and I mis-diagnosed because they were so nuked from my first Lugols dip it was hard to tell exactly what kind of FW they were....(I only found 2 at that time).

I still plan on dipping in Fluke Tabs and doing a QT (plus I will use FWE on the main system for the Planaria). The corals looked great after the dip (little to no stress or color loss, and Polyps out after a half hour or so...) From waht I have seen and experienced thus far Fluke Tabs work great on Red Planaria.....hopefully I don't even have AEFW's...we'll see :)

Also, when I get some time I will post some pics maybe this evening...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8080231#post8080231 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by beapeams
Well I tried the Stoney Method today. Let me tell you after I completed the process and removed enough water out of the 5 gallon bucket to see what was at the bottom clearly, I was shocked. It must have been at least a hundred AEFW laying dead at the bottom.
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Thats what I'm sayin! Who knew there would be soooo many! I was shocked too when I saw how many came off mine.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8080231#post8080231 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by beapeams
I let the bucket sit for at least two hours after that and it appeared to be no movement from the AEFW. They were really beginning to move fast on my Acro's. I did a treatment today just to buy me time. My QT won't have adequate lighting until this weekend. So I did the treatment and had to put them back in my display. I will repeat the in a week and move them over to the QT.
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I had to do the same thing with one colony that had a bunch of eggs in the middle that I could not reach to scrape off. I left it in the display for another week b/c I didn't want to infect the QT tank. I finally was able to get the rest of the eggs off with a long skewer but when I dipped again, I saw no more fw's come off. I think the first dip nuked them all and if there were any on it the second time from going back into the display, they were just to small to see.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8080231#post8080231 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by beapeams
Hopefully this will give me just enough time to get the QT together.
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I think doing the first dip, even though you don't have the qt tank setup was a great idea. And, from how many you said you killed, it sounds like you decimated there population and saved alot of corals from being eatin alive!! :)


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8080231#post8080231 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by beapeams
Thanks Stoney for your inital trial and error. I will keep you guys posted. I have a Tri color (blue/purplish tips, tan body, and green polyps) and a blue tort that got hit rhe worst. I will snap shots of them and keep a photo diary of them. hopefully they recover. But I am not holding out hope. I feel the rest will they were just starting to show signs of damage at the base.
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Your welcome! Glad to hear you are getting the same results and I look forward to seeing pics and hearing about the recovery.
 
Stoney Mahony, I think I'm going to be trying your method based on your pictures, video, and overall lack of losses.

I thought I read ealier that there are various Fluke tabs out there. Can you give us the exact brand you are using? I think the rest of the information about dosages is already posted here.
 
Sure thing Melev, the brand is Aquarium Products - Fluke Tabs(I actually posted a pic of the 10 pack on my first post with 3/4 of an interceptor tab sitting on it). They sell them in 10ct, 100ct, or 1000ct packs so depending on how big of a dipping container you are using, you can buy all you need. I think 10 go for $2 somethin and 100 go for around $20. I know you will be very happy with the outcome(I sure am) :D .
 
me too

me too

well stoney all I can say is your the man!!! your process really works and.. there were no ill effects to my acros. I am going to set up three small tanks that I will run any newly aquired acros through the dips before they even get to the qt tank. thanks again stoney m :D
 
Thanks Redox!!!! Im so freakin happy that others are getting the same results!!!!!! DEATH TO ALL AEFW'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

1200 gallans huh, sounds like a whole lotta coral!
 
Stoney......thx for sharing your experiences with Fluke Tabs and documenting how everything panned out (Pictures speak a 1000 words!) I think this is going to be the treatment of choice for AEFW's and possibly other parasitic pests. You are a gentleman and a scholar! ;)
 
Hey can any of you answer this for me. The light I was suppose to pic up from a friend fell through. Do you think that 3-4 of these would provide enough light on a 30 gallon QT tank for my acros. All acros would be placed near the top of tank. They are HO T5s. Thanks for your help.

T5 Strip light
 
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