RichConley
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my rice experiment
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True, but if something unsafe is there then it would be there because it's inherently within the structure of the rice grain, and not because it was added.
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Stuart60611
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Never mind. Misunderstood your post.
that doesnt make a difference.......
added or not added does not make a difference if it is harmful......but for example if regular rice had copper and organic rice didn't then it would make a difference.
the key point here is regardless of whats added or not added, or whats natural or whats not, is that it has to be reef safe
Re-read what I wrote. Slowly.
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lol......my bad bro....lol
icycoral
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Not exactly gfo absorbs phosphates but using rice as a solid carbon source would allow a bacterial culture to grow on the the rice grains this bacteria consumes phosphates and nitrates along with carbon from the rice and is much more efficient than media like gfo it will hopefully last longer than gfo and the bacteria waste or mulm will feed the corals in your tank you use a reactor to tumble the rice which blows the mulm off the grains hopefully this experiment works as rice is cheaper and more availible than these new bio pellets on the market and lastly I have noticed no negative or positive effects of using rice as a solid carbon source however it will take some time for the bacteria to fully colonize the rice that is when I expect to see some results about one week into the experiment
quick morning update
water is sill a little hazy/cloudy, but all tank inhabitants seem to be doing good.
I haven't had to clean my front glass in 3 days that I started this experiment, that is there is no algae buildup on the glass so far. usually I get some sort of algae buildup in about 2-3 days. I guess I need to wait another day to see what happens.
btw, the skimmate stinks like crazy
water is sill a little hazy/cloudy, but all tank inhabitants seem to be doing good.
I haven't had to clean my front glass in 3 days that I started this experiment, that is there is no algae buildup on the glass so far. usually I get some sort of algae buildup in about 2-3 days. I guess I need to wait another day to see what happens.
btw, the skimmate stinks like crazy
google says a lot of this........
the biopellets have NOT proven anything yet since they are so new.
Yes they do work, but we dont know what effect they will have long term.
PLUS, at least in rice we know what we have in rice, but the bio-pellets, we dont even know what they are made up of other than "they are bio-degradable plastic".
if you've been reading the thread, you will see pics of before and after as a daily update.
there have been no negative effects so far, other than the haze/milky water, but this seems to happen even with the bio-pellets. AND the cyno, that was either there (which I didn't see before), or it just started. on a side note, the cyno does not seem to be expanding.....will post more on this later.
for the positives, I dont have to clean algae on my glass so often, no3 and po4 are still pretty low, diatoms are starting to die back. so I am seeing some positive effects. PLUS its just been 3 days, so its too soon to say anything.
hey icycoral, hows ur tank? any haze with the rice? any cyno?
is the algae starting to cut back?
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Hopefully, one day we Thai, as one of the biggest exporter of rice in the world, will be able to swap our rice for your Bubble Kings and Vortech, literally!
Hopefully, one day we Thai, as one of the biggest exporter of rice in the world, will be able to swap our rice for your Bubble Kings and Vortech, literally!
Subscribed to this very interesting discussion.
Hopefully, one day we Thai, as one of the biggest exporter of rice in the world, will be able to swap our rice for your Bubble Kings and Vortech, literally!
lol.....I dont mind trading some rice for a vortech
lol
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@kkil4life,
How many kilo of premium Thai Jasmine rice do you want for an MP40 ES? lol
How many kilo of premium Thai Jasmine rice do you want for an MP40 ES? lol
Biopellets are the proven technology (relative to rice). In the other rice thread, several other posters commented on rice having various powders, vitamins, and even rice dust covered on them from processing. Biopellets require a rinse, but we know that they aren't being sprinkled arbitrarily with vitamins.
And in this thread, the OP talks about the addition of rice making his skimmer start to pull out gunk within 5 minutes of adding rice. Something on or in the rice is leaching into the water, at least in the short term. I should've clarified my statement that the NP biopellets are more inert in the short term.
Long term, we don't know.
theres no arguing that the bio-pellets are doing what they claim. but as far as rice goes, the added vitamin, or even rice dust could be BENEFICIAL for the reef or maybe its not. thats what I'm trying to prove here. Rather than be skeptical, if we all look at this just as something interesting maybe we will come out with something much more useful than the bio-pellets.
for example, if we know that the rice dust is bad, but we know that some sort of acid wash will get rid of it and further help the rice pull down no3 and po4.....then y not?
I'm just leaving my door open to all sorts of suggestions in the hope that we will come to a conclusive evidence that rice could/couldn't work.
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