My Ultimate Multi Mantis System(s)

If this can all work...................I'm really excited :D!!!

Cause then it can....solve everything! lol....cause all my problems revolve around the stupid pipework I chose so by having the HOBs I can loose the pipework :D and thus be back to "normal"!

Minus 1 ATO system but the HOBs should help to cut back on this as well since there will be no leaking :D...my current HOB hasn't leaked for over 4years.
 
TundraGuy said:
Don't use gate valves use normal ball valves. Gate valves cost way more and are a pain to turn on and off. Ball valves are so much simpler for what you want trust me on this.
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Oh I just didn't know the correct name gate/ball meant the same thing in my eyes but yeah I was going to get the least complex thing and I do know one thing to be sure of is to make sure there are not metal parts in it as I think some valves have steel even the plastic ones...
 
For 10 times the turn over rating at bare minimum for each row is simple 14 x 10 = 140 gph. And 18 x 10 = 180 gph. So we want at bare minimum 140 +140 + 180 = 460 as a baseline turn over rating. More would be better I shoot for closer to 20 or 30 times in hour turn over but 10 will work for filtration alone. Flow will be low but water will be clean. Later down the road you can always add a power head or another return pump or a more powerful return pump. But for the time being your going to love this upgrade. No more bubbles in the display. Woot woot. This is how I tried to talk you into building the system from the gettgo two years ago.
 
TundraGuy said:
For 10 times the turn over rating at bare minimum for each row is simple 14 x 10 = 140 gph. And 18 x 10 = 180 gph. So we want at bare minimum 140 +140 + 180 = 460 as a baseline turn over rating. More would be better I shoot for closer to 20 or 30 times in hour turn over but 10 will work for filtration alone. Flow will be low but water will be clean. Later down the road you can always add a power head or another return pump or a more powerful return pump. But for the time being your going to love this upgrade. No more bubbles in the display. Woot woot. This is how I tried to talk you into building the system from the gettgo two years ago.
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Well the maximum flow rate the HOB can handle is 400GPH and anything lower...

The next size up hobs are just to large(depth wise) and I have spoke to Jeff about it already so best option is the nano HOBs (the one I have right now on the Live Food System).

But 400GPH should be enough :D
 
TundraGuy said:
Later down the road you can always add a power head
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Every compartment already has a Tunze powerhead within it...

Only other option I could see (which ain't happening :P)...is getting another 8! HOB overflows xD.....thus 1 per compartment...but that's to expensive I got a feeling these 8 aren't going to be for less then 2k :X...
 
Yes it will be for an 18 gallon tank 400 gallons an hour is a little over 22 times an hour. So yes these will do the job.
 
I think you will find the pumps you have will be on the weak side for the head height your working with but you should be good to go. Looking at how low the flow is and how wide the sump your using is you will only need the one bubble trap in the sump.
 
I think things are still going to be dependent upon the actual fact that the dividers have no flow holes thus the tanks do not fill up "evenly" 1 compartment fills, then water spills over into the next one to fill.

Couldn't to much input flow within this 1st compartment effectively it cause the water might not be able to pass over the divider fast enough ?

It's what I am experiencing with the FX5 OR this could be because of the stupid pipe work restricting overall flow...not sure...hope its the latter and the divider a non issue...

I'm off to see a movie ill be back in a few hours, I'll post more when I get back lol...
 
Well don't all rush to see Robocop at once...

Aside that whilst in the movie Jeff got back to me with a cost for 8 HOB Overflows, which is not total yet (no shipping costs yet and he packs well...) but for just 8 Overflows, 8 silencers and 4 spare syphon tubes, it will be about $1100 (not inc freight).
 
How tall is this? I'm asking because you got to make sure the pump is strong enough to blow water that high to reach the top tank. That's one problem I've always had.. for my 29 I could never find a pump thats only 300 gph but is capable of blowing water 5 feet in the air.. The smaller the water volume, the weaker the pump needed, and the less hieght to get out of it.

I'm imagining the sump is going to be on the floor and the tanks will be stacked high for viewing and if they are that volume than it'd be like having larger than three ten gallons stacked if not around that size.
 
Calappidae said:
How tall is this? I'm asking because you got to make sure the pump is strong enough to blow water that high to reach the top tank. That's one problem I've always had.. for my 29 I could never find a pump thats only 300 gph but is capable of blowing water 5 feet in the air.. The smaller the water volume, the weaker the pump needed, and the less hieght to get out of it.

I'm imagining the sump is going to be on the floor and the tanks will be stacked high for viewing and if they are that volume than it'd be like having larger than three ten gallons stacked if not around that size.
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The sumps are on the floor...
The pumps have a 3mtr Hmax and pump out 3000L max.
The top tank in each stand is just under 2.6mtrs.
 
Gen 2 of the Mantis-Man, a more complete version and a bit more 'accurately' pieced together, not too mention a pair of legs :)...

Witness the agent of your demise,
for I bare allegiance to powers untouched by time, unmoved by fate...
No force on this world or beyond harbors the strength to bend my knee!




:wildone::wildone::wildone:
 
Come on man show us a video of the water moving from one section to the next. If your having problems with highth you may need boxes everywhere. But the fx5 most likely has a stronger flow then the new pump set up. I need video.
 
It would be easy to upgrade the pumps to something bigger if need...

The thing is showing a video of the current water flow isn't going to do anything but create massive confusion...

I have been collaborating with others on FB about this and I'm now fairly confident that the current plan will work, however I have 2-3 others in place just in case the return pipeline don't work out (basically just a different piping layout but the rest is still the same).
 
TundraGuy said:
And mantis man is starting to look like a frog. Or is that how they jump so well?
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I agree the legs to give off a Froggy Effect which is kind of wrapped up by the "feet", all his legs are in the image are Smasher Appendages stretched and skewed with a pair of real stomatopod feed very much enlarged.

Just trying to detail a very bulky 'quadriceps' area since such a creature would need seriously powerful legs to not only hold its own weight but move so fluently and swiftly.

Whilst the Mantis-Man can and will be capable of not only jumping but all other functions 'humans' can do (flip, cartwheel etc.) as far as the actual jumping part goes, his maxillipeds will greatly help him here...they are his most useful tool that handles many things from day to day actions to combat fighting, to very delicate tasks, I said it in the past but his maxillipeds are going to be like "harpoons" and when it comes to jumping these can be very very useful....
 
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