N/P reducing pellets (solid vodka dosing)
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Burblecut
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I have a 72g full of softies and some sps. It's been about 6 weeks that i have been running NP biopellets (550ml) in my reactor(without sponges and tumbling nicely).
From a visual standpoint, I have noticed my water clarity is amazing with these pellets and my softies/sps seem to be growing well. My Nitrates have also went down a fair amount!
Cyano? Yup, still have some purple slime creeping in the same spots as usual.
I also run Carbon, I'm not sure if I am supposed to with NP? If someone can clarify that would be great.
chercm
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same here and that is the reason i sold my pellets away and i changed to Zeovit
Tony Romano
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I have been running ZEO for darn near a year, Cyno never stopped!
Personally I see no reason the pellets and ZEO can't both be used. I am just about to a point I believe Cyno is more of a light thing. Also run GFO heavy, be careful not to reduce PO4 too fast or corals may bleach, RTN or STN.
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Tony Romano
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Randy I think it happens when PO4 is lowered too fast.
PowermanKW
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Does anyone have a link hady for some good reading on cyano??? I have only just recently had it and don't really know much about it.
tntneon
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Sad to here that some reefers experiencing bad results :sad2: , beforez you stop the system of all i would try to dose some vingar (2 weeks) and decreasing the dosage back to zero in the following week.
I had some cyano too but in went away after the vinegar dosing (now i don't dose vinegaranymore ) and my waterchanges weekly.
greetingzz tntneon
I had some cyano too but in went away after the vinegar dosing (now i don't dose vinegaranymore ) and my waterchanges weekly.
greetingzz tntneon
Sad to here that some reefers experiencing bad results :sad2: , beforez you stop the system of all i would try to dose some vingar (2 weeks) and decreasing the dosage back to zero in the following week.
I had some cyano too but in went away after the vinegar dosing (now i don't dose vinegaranymore ) and my waterchanges weekly.
greetingzz tntneon
How much vinegar do you suggest to dose ?.
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bluereefs
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Personally I dont think cyano and bio pellets are to much related, cyano shows up because in aquarium are conditions what start cyano and cyano will start to grow with or without bio pellets.
In my main aquarium there are no cyano at all (maybe few mm in few spots but that is normal IMO) second had small trace (2-3 inchec) of cyano close to glass where was weak circulation but when I put the parameters back in line and made water changes cyano disapear,third aquarium have cyano on the back glass (7-10 inches) but that was more neglected aquarium and after few water changes cyano start to disapear there too. Third aquarium use very litlle bp. 300-400 ml on 500 liters of aquarium, and not in the fluid reactor. Other aquariums use 1500-1000 ml of bp in fluid reactors.
In my expirience with those three aquarium cyano shows up the most in aquarium with smalest amount of bp and is more related to neglected practice then with bp itself.
In my main aquarium there are no cyano at all (maybe few mm in few spots but that is normal IMO) second had small trace (2-3 inchec) of cyano close to glass where was weak circulation but when I put the parameters back in line and made water changes cyano disapear,third aquarium have cyano on the back glass (7-10 inches) but that was more neglected aquarium and after few water changes cyano start to disapear there too. Third aquarium use very litlle bp. 300-400 ml on 500 liters of aquarium, and not in the fluid reactor. Other aquariums use 1500-1000 ml of bp in fluid reactors.
In my expirience with those three aquarium cyano shows up the most in aquarium with smalest amount of bp and is more related to neglected practice then with bp itself.
Randy I think it happens when PO4 is lowered too fast.
That's possible. Any hypothesis about how it is related to the alkalinity?
That's possible. Any hypothesis about how it is related to the alkalinity?
180+55reef
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so I have a LPS dominated tank, recently my gonis and aussie elegances dont look as good as they should , As this like nutrient rich waters is it possible that the pellets are hurting these corals?
I am finally getting some gunk in my skimmer
I am finally getting some gunk in my skimmer
tntneon
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+1 , this i quoted earlyer , doing more frequently WC and vacuuming the brown spots of is the best pratice against cyano IMO
Once water gets real clear , you have the tendency to wait longer to do a WC ... and then cyano comes back with me .
greetingzz tntneon
tntneon
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I pushed it in a week up to 10 ml / 25 G (starting with 2-->4-->6-->...-->10 ml)
and try to decrease gradualy in a week back to zero.
Try to vacuum those spots as you do a WC.
greetingzz tntneon
180+55reef
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bump on my LPS question
rutz81
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No direct experience, just a hypothesis. If the Biopellets have stripped the water(just as vodka, or any other carbon source can), maybe adding more food/aminos/nutrients might help out. How are your nitrate/phosphate levels?
bluereefs
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Not IME if bp are used corectly without side efect, my livestock in all 3 aquarium are mostly lps corals, they do not showed any sign of stress with the bp.
bluereefs
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Just measured nitrate, with Salifert test, and they are 0,2 mg/lit, phosphate was and are still 0 acording to Salifert test kit. My nitrate was 100 mg/lit + , that is very drastic nitrate reduction, my skimmer still foaming all the time, even few minutes after cup cleaning he get full of foam.
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