N/P reducing pellets (solid vodka dosing)

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hi reefers:) ,

In my country i hear positif results and stories about a new kind of bio degradeble polymer pellet which is capable of reducing N and P , like dosing vodka.

with the advantage that the bacteria only grow on the pellets (and not on glas and other surfaces) after a while you just change your filter sock or fluidising bed with new pellets.

does anyone of you in the states has any experience with this sorts of pellets ?

i have orderd me some of these pellets
will post it when i'm gonna start to use them.

greetingzz tntneon:)
 
Hmm, well, the pellets might work. I'm not sure what the advantages might be, but let us know how it goes.
 
I read the product info. So if you use this filter media, is it supplying the organic carbon? Or do you still need to dose Vodka?
 
Will do bertoni:) ,

I'm just as curious , this evening it was the first time i've read (heared) about it on ower local forum .

On ower local forum a few (lucky:)) members have tested them and they where very positif about it.

first i've got to wait a week until i got my buckett of pellets , then i'll post my findings...

greetingzz tntneon






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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15587609#post15587609 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kaskiles
I read the product info. So if you use this filter media, is it supplying the organic carbon? Or do you still need to dose Vodka?

No you don't have to dose carbon anymore ,
the pellest itself consits of an carbon source - polymer, where the bacteria live and grow on .

After 3 to 6 months you would have to replace the reduced pellets by new ones.

greetingzz tntneon:)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15587736#post15587736 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ethank77
interested to see if it work with out causing alge and bacterial blooms
let's hope so:D
it's one of the proposed properties of the pellets , the food is in the pellet and not in the watercoloum.

i'm very eager to test this stuff !

greetingzz tntneon

:)
 
I have been testing this media for a week or so :) I use canister filter without the lid combined with a relatively small pump (500 l/h) inside the sump. The amount of bacteria biomass inside the filter is amazing; if I slightly disturb the media (to prevent channeling) I get very large amount of solid bacteria aggregates.

Unfortunately my skimmer died just when I received the media :( But even with seriously underpowered backup skimmer I'm already seeing reduction in nitrate concentration. Can't wait to see the results when I receive a new skimmer in a week or two ;)

I also dose vodka+sugar mixture but dropped the dosage to half after installing the pellets.

tntneon,
Is this product already available in shops?
 
Pictures of the filter and amount of bacteria produced. Excellent food for filter feeders :)

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How friable is that media? Is it rubbery, so you could bounce it around and fluidize it in an up-flow reactor? Sounds like it might be a good find. I wonder if the media is soluble in sea water?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15589424#post15589424 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kaskiles
How friable is that media? Is it rubbery, so you could bounce it around and fluidize it in an up-flow reactor? Sounds like it might be a good find.
Yes, it can be used in a reactor.
I wonder if the media is soluble in sea water?
The media has been developed specially for marine aquariums, it is not soluble (at least not significantly).
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15589040#post15589040 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tatuvaaj
I have been testing this media for a week or so :) I use canister filter without the lid combined with a relatively small pump (500 l/h) inside the sump. The amount of bacteria biomass inside the filter is amazing; if I slightly disturb the media (to prevent channeling) I get very large amount of solid bacteria aggregates.

Unfortunately my skimmer died just when I received the media :( But even with seriously underpowered backup skimmer I'm already seeing reduction in nitrate concentration. Can't wait to see the results when I receive a new skimmer in a week or two ;)

I also dose vodka+sugar mixture but dropped the dosage to half after installing the pellets.

tntneon,
Is this product already available in shops?

Hi Tatuvaaj ,

It`s nice to hear someone else on this forum is using it :)
keep us informed about your findings , i`m very intresseted.
How much has your no3 already dropped ?
Do the pellets float or sink ?
I would like to use them in a filter sock
I understand that the first real results come after a couple of weeks.

It `s still not available in the stores here , probably over a month or so.
But a friend on my local Dutch/Belgian forum has the privilege to test the stuff before it enters the stores and they are all very positif about it (marketing kept a side offcourse , i hope)
But if you pre order i can get some in two weeks or so (hopefully) :) , can`t wait untill i have the pellets.
because i would like the benefits of carbon dosing w/o the dosing:D

greetingzz tntneon:)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15589970#post15589970 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tntneon
How much has your no3 already dropped ?
I don't think it's fair to comment the performance yet ;) I would at least like to get skimming to the same level it was before the Biopellets...
Do the pellets float or sink ?
They sink but are very light weight.
But a friend on my local Dutch/Belgian forum has the privilege to test the stuff before it enters the stores and they are all very positif about it (marketing kept a side offcourse , i hope)
So far I've gotten the impression that this firm is not about marketing like so many other manufacturers ;) Actually, I think they should be marketing their Reefpearls product more aggressively; probably the best invertebrate foods I've tested so far :thumbsup:
 
that is good news ,

I`m now even more eager to get these pearls:)
is an information draft included with these pearls , maybe some
guidelinens whether or not to dose carbon in combination with them ?

greetingzz tntneon:)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15590184#post15590184 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tntneon
is an information draft included with these pearls , maybe some
guidelinens whether or not to dose carbon in combination with them ?
That I don't know, I haven't seen the final packaging :) The manufacturer has been very helpful during the testing period.

You can use other organic carbon sources together with this product.
 
The solid organic carbon media is called 'Biopellets', and that same company's invert food is called 'Reef Pearls', correct?

Anyway, I hope we can get access to the Biopellets over in the US soon.

It would really make it easier to not have to dose the organic carbon; and it's insignificant solubility in seawater would alleviate a few organic carbon dosing concerns, such as bacteria overgrowth on coral and fish skin layers and the bacteria mats and blooms in the display tank...
 
keep up the good work fellas I realy realy want to see the results of this product. after a wile more of testing as I am starting to dose mb7 for the same issues that this product may be able to resolve
 
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