NanoGurl's 75g Reef Thread

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10445106#post10445106 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
Your top off reservoir should have a lid over it, just to keep stuff from getting into your pure water. Other than that, it looks good.
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Thanks! I feel a lot better now.

Maybe I can cover it with some plexi glass. I don't want to use the bucket cover bc I can't see the level of the water.

Question for you:

I can't have the water level in the bucket higher then the water level in the return section of my sump (where it drains into) correct? Is there a way to fix that?

I ask bc I loose a lot of water to evaporation every day.. so I still have to add water to the bucket almost as much as I used to the tank so far it seems. I would like to be able to increase that if I can, especially if I go away for a few days.

Great photo btw! I will look into the ASM mod thing. I'm hoping that will help with my nitrate problem.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10446524#post10446524 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TRITON1
Nanogurl, if the search function isn't working go to google or yahoo and search for something followed by "site:reefcentral.com" without the quotes. It will limit the results to only info on reefcentral and best of all IT ALWAYS WORKS!

For example you would type

sugar glider site:reefcentral.com

100 bucks says the first few hits are from your thread......
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That's cool! Thanks. I was #1 when I did it lol. *hands you $100*
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10446524#post10446524 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TRITON1
100 bucks says the first few hits are from your thread......
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Actually.... would you take 30 red mushrooms instead? lol
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10448558#post10448558 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NanoGurl
Thanks! I feel a lot better now.

Maybe I can cover it with some plexi glass. I don't want to use the bucket cover bc I can't see the level of the water.

Question for you:

I can't have the water level in the bucket higher then the water level in the return section of my sump (where it drains into) correct? Is there a way to fix that?

I ask bc I loose a lot of water to evaporation every day.. so I still have to add water to the bucket almost as much as I used to the tank so far it seems. I would like to be able to increase that if I can, especially if I go away for a few days.

Great photo btw! I will look into the ASM mod thing. I'm hoping that will help with my nitrate problem.
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Yes, you can fill the bucket up to the top if you like. However, this is where things get tricky:

The tubing that squirts the water in the sump needs to be affixed in such a way that it won't pop loose and squirt water outside of the sump, AND be high enough up that it won't siphon water out when the pump is cycled off. What you can do is put a piece of PVC in the sump standing up nice and tall, taller than your reservoir bucket. Then insert & affix the tubing. Test the ATO and make sure it squirts water down the PVC pipe, and yet when it is off the siphon is broken and water travels back down the tubing into the reservoir.

An acrylic cover would be great. Heck, Saran Wrap would work, but be tacky.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10448558#post10448558 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NanoGurl
I can't have the water level in the bucket higher then the water level in the return section of my sump (where it drains into) correct? Is there a way to fix that?

I ask bc I loose a lot of water to evaporation every day.. so I still have to add water to the bucket almost as much as I used to the tank so far it seems. I would like to be able to increase that if I can, especially if I go away for a few days.
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Actually this is the reason why Tunze recommends that the top off water from the Osmolator go to the tank rather than the sump. That way, you can make sure that the end of the tubing will always be above the level in the bucket so that you never have to worry about establishing a siphon. I have mine dumping water into my overflow in the tank so that it's not dumping freshwater directly into the tank (goes down to sump and mixes there and gets pumped back into tank). This way you can fill up the bucket all the way to the top and not worry about it creating a siphon.

Marc's method works too though though it may take up more space in your sump. :)

The mounting of your sensors looks fine though I'm puzzled as to why you needed to rubber band the rail in place :rollface:

And where is the top off water coming into your sump? I couldn't tell from the picture whether it was installed on top of the rail like it's supposed to be. If it was on top of the rail, you'd probably be OK with not creating a siphon too.

Spleen
 
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Whoa! That looks like a huge skimmer!! (just say "thanks"):frog:

I gotta hand it to you NG, I have always placed my skimmer and sump in the garage or in the basement and it's a good thing cause I have at least one flood every couple of months. I realize that if I set the dang thing up right this probably wouldn't happen but my fragile male ego will not permit me to ask questions, at least out in the open.

Ever had a flood?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10448835#post10448835 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
Yes, you can fill the bucket up to the top if you like.

The tubing that squirts the water in the sump needs to be affixed in such a way that it won't pop loose and squirt water outside of the sump, AND be high enough up that it won't siphon water out when the pump is cycled off.
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What would cause it to siphon water? I guess that's the point where I am confused. Do you mean by siphon, submerged so the water can travel backwards? Meaning, as long as the return tube is out of the water at all times it will be okay?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10449252#post10449252 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by spleen93
Actually this is the reason why Tunze recommends that the top off water from the Osmolator go to the tank rather than the sump. I have mine dumping water into my overflow in the tank so that it's not dumping freshwater directly into the tank (goes down to sump and mixes there and gets pumped back into tank). This way you can fill up the bucket all the way to the top and not worry about it creating a siphon.

The mounting of your sensors looks fine though I'm puzzled as to why you needed to rubber band the rail in place :rollface:

And where is the top off water coming into your sump?
Spleen
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That's an interesting idea! I wonder if maybe I should do that into the overflow just so I don't mess something up with the PVC in the sump. Thanks!

The rubber band is placed around the return hosing and the plastic thing. It's not holding the plastic thing together, it was just added security to the airline tubing to make sure there is no way it comes off the connector and pours water into my stand.

The water is pouring into the return section of the sump.

I'll go take a few photos to show, brb!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10449347#post10449347 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Cuby2k
Whoa! That looks like a huge skimmer!! (just say "thanks"):frog:

I gotta hand it to you NG, I have always placed my skimmer and sump in the garage or in the basement and it's a good thing cause I have at least one flood every couple of months. I realize that if I set the dang thing up right this probably wouldn't happen but my fragile male ego will not permit me to ask questions, at least out in the open.

Ever had a flood?
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lol... poor male ego =)

Nope, never had a flood. I don't see how my skimmer could flood from the way it's setup. If it overflows the collection cup it goes back into the tank. This has happened to me when I mess up the pvc height and i collect too much water instead of skimmate.. but it just goes back into the sump. No flood, but no skimming. I check it every day to make sure and i've only had that happen a few times.

I would like to have an out of sump skimmer, but never know any good ones. I would like to do that on my next tank when we move.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10449576#post10449576 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NanoGurl
What would cause it to siphon water? I guess that's the point where I am confused. Do you mean by siphon, submerged so the water can travel backwards? Meaning, as long as the return tube is out of the water at all times it will be okay?
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It can siphon out of the bucket into the sump, or from the sump into the bucket. The tubing should never be submerged, and remember that once the water has started flowing via gravity, it will continue until it runs out of water to siphon out.

When you were siphoning out flatworms, the only way to stop the siphon was to remove the end in the tank, OR lift the draining end higher than the tank's edge, correct? Same principle.

If this doesn't make sense yet, once you see water going everywhere it'll click. Have a bunch of towels ready. ;)
 
I think it makes sense *lies* :)

No, it does I think. As long as the return tubing is higher then the water level of the bucket I'm okay. So if I attach the tubing into my overflow I can fill the bucket as high as I want bc it will never siphon. As long as the return tubing never gets submerged.

Correct?
 
Okay, here are the photos for you Spleen.

Here is the rubber band photo. I wanted to make sure it would stay put.
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Where it drains into the sump.
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Another view of the sensors.
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10449750#post10449750 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NanoGurl
I think it makes sense *lies* :)

No, it does I think. As long as the return tubing is higher then the water level of the bucket I'm okay. So if I attach the tubing into my overflow I can fill the bucket as high as I want bc it will never siphon. As long as the return tubing never gets submerged.

Correct?
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Correct.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10449841#post10449841 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Snowboarda42
NG - How come your thread on RF is so behind :D
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lol... idk! I guess I should probably update it this month :lol:
 
NG - look at that giganto pic that I posted a while back.

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If you look at the top of the leftmost rail, you'll see some additional parts attached to the top of the front part of the rail. If you compare the left rail to the right rail, you can see where it attaches. It's a screw/nut combination that holds a plastic tubing holder in place that, in turn, holds the plastic tubing in place (the black hose you see). It should be in all of those pieces that the osmolator comes with. You'll need to move the rectangular piece that you snapped into the front of the rail higher so that the top portion of the rectangular piece is flush or higher than the top of the rail so that you have space to mount the tubing holder.

If you use that, you definitely won't need the rubber band - it holds the tubing in place quite securely. If this isn't clear, let me know ... I don't know if I have extras of those pieces lying around to take pictures with but I can certainly take a look.

Spleen
 
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