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Hmmm. never thought of it that way when I first read it.... I just thought when he said 'distribution box' he meant a sub-panel....
Is that how it's set up,,, the 220 runs into an outlet box? or does the 220 run into a sub-panel, then off to outlets? which is how I picture it.....
OK - sorry it took me so long to post this:
This is the box they put in the fish room. They put a double pull (is that the right term?), 220V 40Amp breaker in the main panel, then pulled four 8 gauge wires (black=hot, red=hot, white=common, copper=ground) to the distribution box (or sub-panel - whichever is correct
) - the box in the picture. That box is the only thing they put in the fish room. The other stuff you see, I did - day before yesterday - all 12 gauge. You'll probably notice 2 red wires (coming from the rightand from the bottom), both going to ground. That IS a ground wire - Lowes didn't have any green
. The only thing the electrician put in the box is the breakers and the cable coming from the left.
All that said - I've got a second firm coming out this afternoon to look at it. As a matter of fact, they're an hour late now.
Thanks so much for all the help.
This is the box they put in the fish room. They put a double pull (is that the right term?), 220V 40Amp breaker in the main panel, then pulled four 8 gauge wires (black=hot, red=hot, white=common, copper=ground) to the distribution box (or sub-panel - whichever is correct
) - the box in the picture. That box is the only thing they put in the fish room. The other stuff you see, I did - day before yesterday - all 12 gauge. You'll probably notice 2 red wires (coming from the rightand from the bottom), both going to ground. That IS a ground wire - Lowes didn't have any green. The only thing the electrician put in the box is the breakers and the cable coming from the left.All that said - I've got a second firm coming out this afternoon to look at it. As a matter of fact, they're an hour late now.
Thanks so much for all the help.
Did they re-wire the cable that feeds your new panel or fix it
cause what could happen is that the cable they past to feed your panel looks like its UF kind of cable if he peal the neutral wire a little bit and the ground wire does not have rubber jacket your geeting voltage thru your ground terminal and since the ground terminal is attache to the chaisis of the box guess what zapppppp
cause what could happen is that the cable they past to feed your panel looks like its UF kind of cable if he peal the neutral wire a little bit and the ground wire does not have rubber jacket your geeting voltage thru your ground terminal and since the ground terminal is attache to the chaisis of the box guess what zapppppp
BeanAnimal
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It is called a "shared neutral" circuit and it is done all the time. In reality, your entire home shares a single neutral
The Neutral and Ground must not be bonded anyplace but the main service panel. I.E. you need a ground and neutral feed from the main panel to each circuit and subpanel. The subpanel has to have a ground bus bar AND an isolated neutral bus bar.
BeanAnimal
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As mentioned, the box appears to be wired properly at first glance.
I do not like the use of the RED wire as a ground. At the minimum it should be clearly marked with GREEN tape, and even...
Also, as mentioned, the shocks could have been from a poor connection or improper grounding. It is fixed, but it would have been nice for the electrician to tell you what was wrong (he likely hemmed and hawed, as to not admit his guy made a mistake).
To be clear (for the others reading along):
There should be 4 wires coming from the main panel.
2 HOTS (Black and Red), 1 NEUTRAL (White) and 1 Ground (green or bare). The NEUTRAL bus in the new subpanel (in the fishroom) MUST NOT be bonded (touching) the metal (GROUND) in the subpanel. The panel does not (and should not) have its own ground. It should be grounded back to the main service panel.
Your panel appears to be wired correctly
I do not like the use of the RED wire as a ground. At the minimum it should be clearly marked with GREEN tape, and even...
Also, as mentioned, the shocks could have been from a poor connection or improper grounding. It is fixed, but it would have been nice for the electrician to tell you what was wrong (he likely hemmed and hawed, as to not admit his guy made a mistake).
To be clear (for the others reading along):
There should be 4 wires coming from the main panel.
2 HOTS (Black and Red), 1 NEUTRAL (White) and 1 Ground (green or bare). The NEUTRAL bus in the new subpanel (in the fishroom) MUST NOT be bonded (touching) the metal (GROUND) in the subpanel. The panel does not (and should not) have its own ground. It should be grounded back to the main service panel.
Your panel appears to be wired correctly
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BeanAnimal
Premium Member
Not a problem Glass
I don't think you should have a double pole breaker feeding 2 seperate circuits as a double pole breaker should have both sides tied together to trip together. I suspect you new electrician will either remove the clip holding the breaker together or replace it with 2 single pole breakers.
taylor t
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13477765#post13477765 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GlassReef
OK - sorry it took me so long to post this:
This is the box they put in the fish room. They put a double pull (is that the right term?), 220V 40Amp breaker in the main panel, then pulled four 8 gauge wires (black=hot, red=hot, white=common, copper=ground) to the distribution box (or sub-panel - whichever is correct
All that said - I've got a second firm coming out this afternoon to look at it. As a matter of fact, they're an hour late now.
Thanks so much for all the help.
Isn't that an orange jacket on the left condiut? You may want to check wire size and make sure it should be on a 40 amp breaker...
