Need some help with water.

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kratosxxl

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Hi all
Recently i tried sugar dosing (first mistake)nitrates went 0 from 25 But the i started havin terrible red algae. Dosing stopped but algae still there.
Amm 0
Nitriti 0
Nitrate 0.5
Calc 460
Alk 10
Temp 7
Sal 1025(increased from 1023 by suggestions here )
But the main problem is corals gsp wont opem hairy mushroom looks dying. But hammer and acans doing ok. Also i dont know how but my pop puffer stopped eating and has white dots all over. So is it 2 issues or dosing caused this all mess ?
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Will appreciate at help
 
If you have a pufferfish that's stopped eating and has abnormal spots, it's probably sick. Some fish diseases can hang around at a very low level so they seem fine until something stresses them and then they get ill. Puffers also get lock-jaw from improper diet which makes them not eat.

I would be easier to get at the big picture with a little more info:
- Did you quarantine all the fish
- how long have you had the tank?
- How big is the tank?
- What is your goal for stocking it (both fish and coral)
- what is it stocked with (coral and fish)
- what lights do you have?

-how did you set up the rocks and sand, and what kinds did you use?
- Did you cure the rocks?
- what is your gear like: reactors? Sump? Fuge? Skimmer?
- how many and what kind of powerheads do you have ?
- what is your water source?

-how long ago did you start seeing algae?
- what did you try before sugar,
-how long did you wait to start sugar?
- how long did you dose sugar for?
- how long ago did you stop?
- Did you try any chemical to get rid of issues?
- are you dosing any other products like reef boosters?
- How much / often do you feed?

It would also help if you can take a pic when the brighter lights are on. Take one of the whole tank too.
Sorry so long, it's important stuff :)
 
I did vodka dosing for some time. It seemed to work really well for a long time then I eventually stopped doing it due to getting cyano. I believe your puffer may be a separate issue from the carbon dosing. Answres to Cstricklands questions will help.
 
- Did you quarantine all the fish NO DONT HAVE ENOUGH ROOM
- how long have you had the tank? 4 MONTH
- How big is the tank? 90 GAL + 30 GAL SUMP
- What is your goal for stocking it (both fish and coral) IM DONE WITH FISH STOCKING TOTAL OF 10
- what is it stocked with (coral and fish) yEL TANK,PUFFER,MAROON CLOWN,DOUBLE SPOT GOBY,2 GREEN GOBY,CLEANER WRASSE,6 LINE WRASSE AND 2 MORE SMALL , CORALS hammer,torch,gsp,shroom,xenia,hpt gorgonian, flower pot,yuma,1 pc of sps (i think acro) devils hand,clam (btw clam is doing great )
- what lights do you have? 2 120w ocean revive at 50 blue 40 white

-how did you set up the rocks and sand, and what kinds did you use? 80 lb live rock fully cured i hope (40 out of 80 was fully covered in coraline)
- Did you cure the rocks? nope i trusted seller
- what is your gear like: reactors? Sump? Fuge? Skimmer? sump, octopus 150 int, jebao w8, fuge with chateo anf 57k light running overnight
- how many and what kind of powerheads do you have ? 1 jebaOW8
- what is your water source? rodi filter 4 stage

-how long ago did you start seeing algae? on the sugar dosing last day
- what did you try before sugar, nothing
-how long did you wait to start sugar? since day 1
- how long did you dose sugar for? 5 days 1/8 of teaspoon
- how long ago did you stop? almost 4 days
- Did you try any chemical to get rid of issues? nope i done adding stuff :))
- are you dosing any other products like reef boosters? nope
- How much / often do you feed? now every other day before every day mysis shrimp washed twice wit RO water P.S. for 4 days i fed SPIRULINA and i think it has some algae in it for tangs

:)
btw thank you for your help
 
Not sure if you can see the pics sorry for the blue
but Hammer, torch,acans and 1 hairy shroom (on the left bottom corner is doing great)
so im not sure what went wrong , i just ordered Chemipure elite, and will be adding BRS dual reactor for GFO an CAC in the future anything else will you suggest ?
 
Also i had kal in my ato (half tea spoon per gall in 5 gall) i replaced it with RODI since my calc and alk are a bit high also PH is about 8.6 and i dont know how to lower it, i pointed PWH towards top so more air will be mixed i think :) i laso added 2 fans to the fuge section just to get air circulated , i belive the reason is that my ato turns on and off at least 2 a day not sure if its a evap or overflow box is defective or something
 
One thing that is really easy to help with Cyanobacteria (red slime) is to adjust the water flow in your tank. Even with the rw8 at full power it's only like 20 times your dt volume (90 gal x20=1800 gph). So a little more from another powerheads wouldn't hurt. It might be that with it pointed up the poop from your animals and bacteria is landing in the sand instead of flying around, so the cyano gets an opportunity to eat it before the filtration and chaeto can remove the nutrients.
This is a nice thing to try first because it won't upset anything else while your tank rebalances itself through water changes. Dosing carbon like sugar is kind of like steroids for the bacteria, and it can take a little while for things to get back to normal when you stop.

There's other things you can do like turning off the lights for three days, but your tank has had so many changes lately maybe it's better to see if more flow helps first?

Also, using a siphon tube to suck it up and out of the tank never hurts.

Idk anything about puffers though :( I'm sure other people will have ideas for that, and the cyano too. I'm glad your cycle went good :)
 
I'm personally not a fan of dosing anything other than 2 part. I've seen too many reef friends crash their tanks using sugar, vodka, etc... to ever want to do that to a tank.
 
So u think another rw8 will be ok or should go lower ? Cuz i think i can sync 2 together . I will do big water change like 50 % and will try to remove as much as i can. So if it didnt work turn off lights for 3 days. What about the chemi pure should i use it or hold on ?
 
Yeah I think you can program the rw8's to pulse with each other and stuff, so I guess it would be cool to get another one and play with that. Idk if you need another computer to control them or what. I just have cheapo powerheads :)

This is how you do the lights out thing http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2279039

I don't see how the chemipure would hurt anything. Make sure to rinse it off gently before you put it in
 
kratosxxl said:
STOCKING TOTAL OF 10
- what is it stocked with (coral and fish) YELLOW TANG, PUFFER, MAROON CLOWN, DOUBLE SPOT GOBY, 2 GREEN GOBY, CLEANER WRASSE, 6 LINE WRASSE AND 2 MORE SMALL
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From what I understand a Twin Spot Goby has very specific dietary needs, mainly a mature sand bed full of life and (I'm guessing) some crud. A 4 month old tank probably does not have enough stuff in the sand for it to survive. They usually starve to death once they deplete the sand of whatever it is they need to survive. You may want to return that fish to the LFS or follow some of the procedures in the link provided to keep that fish from starving to death. Many people believe that fish should be left in the ocean and never collected. They're probably right.

See mmittlesteadt's thread here: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2510300&highlight=twin+spot+goby
 
Here is small update. Since i replaced kalk with rodi in ato. And turned off lights for 1 day (didnt know about 3 days ) i see cyano is going away slowly but i haven't did any wc. Im waiting for my second rw8. And will do 3 lights out. Thatnk you so much CStrickland.
 
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