New A. chrysopterus clowns

[Elmo18]

Hi all. I acquired a couple of orange-tail variant A. chrysopterus clowns last Saturday. They are already eating well.

Both are about 2-2.5". I'm guessing both are still males.

Just seeing what specifically I should watch out for with these guys, upon my limited experience with A. chrys.

Here are some fuzzy photos.

Both dipped, prior to the tank, although I am still concerned, as I know how delicate these guys are.

Many thanks,
Ilham

 

[not ecooper]

Ohh...I am so jealous. I hope that they do well for you!

 

[ezhoops]

Well, qt is the usual way but keep an eye on them closely, I've had mine turn in less than 8 hrs (overnight) its amazing how fast they can go south

 

[Elmo18]

What I wonder is, when they will lose the third stripe? Not familiar with this species yet.

Best,
Ilham

 

[skinpuppi]

Can't help you on care, but those a beautiful!

 

[ezhoops]

it could take a while or they may keep just a small portion or it will kind of blend in, at least from what I've seen

 

[MarinaP]

Re: New A. chrysopterus clowns

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6478262#post6478262 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Elmo18

Just seeing what specifically I should watch out for with these guys, upon my limited experience with A. chrys.

Rapid breathing usually indicates an offset of brook with these guys. I do not think I saw one single chrys without brook during winter months Smaller guys usually ship better, so good luck.

I would perform Formalin baths and add antibiotics, such as Spectrogram at double dose, to the QT. Pipzine is your friend, too.

I have one chrys who has been in captivity for 2 years+ and still has a tiny wedge of white on the tail. He was about a year old when purchased. HTH and BTW, nice job on the workshop

 

[Elmo18]

Re: Re: New A. chrysopterus clowns

Re: Re: New A. chrysopterus clowns

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6483163#post6483163 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MarinaP
Rapid breathing usually indicates an offset of brook with these guys. I do not think I saw one single chrys without brook during winter months Smaller guys usually ship better, so good luck.

I would perform Formalin baths and add antibiotics, such as Spectrogram at double dose, to the QT. Pipzine is your friend, too.

I have one chrys who has been in captivity for 2 years+ and still has a tiny wedge of white on the tail. He was about a year old when purchased. HTH and BTW, nice job on the workshop

Thank you Marina! Nikki (NaH2O) has told me that she met you at MACNA this past summer or so. I'd love to go to one of those one day. I appreciate the comment, especially from you!

I have several other questions regarding this species, and I know you have handled hundreds of them or more . Both 'males' are eating voraciously, already taking to the baster and very alert at feeding times. I have fed a couple things to note: chopped bay scallops, chopped/shredded tiger prawns, and Formula 1 flakes. They are eating all or any of that at the moment.

My question is, is there a point where, their eagerness to eat may be a symptom of a disease? Again, these guys have been in my possession since Saturday. I am watching them very closely. In my opinion, these guys are small, around 2-2.5". I know they can get pretty big...5-6". From other chrys photos taken from the wild, it seems that the bars may shrink in width?

I have some meds ready in hand. I will keep my fingers crossed... By the way, how many TR chrys were you able to keep alive Marina?

Best,
Ilham

 

[Elmo18]

Just an update:

THe two chrys are still looking 'good'. Today is day 8 in my care. Eating well.

Photos to come later.

Best,
Ilham

 

[leebca]

Ilham,

I was searching RC and happened across your thread. The foods you are feeding are not the complete diet for your anemonefish. Please see this post:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=785228

A. chrysopterus are omnivores.

Good luck!

 

[ezhoops]

any updates Elmo?

 

[Elmo18]

I am sad to say one did not make it.

The other one is still alive, and doing well. It has now been placed in its own tank.

Best,
Ilham

 

[ezhoops]

sorry to hear that, I've had mine now for about 3-4weeks and they are doing great (fingers crossed) they are still in QT.

here's a pic, they are very small 1.5" & 1"

 

[knowse]

I have a pair of Mashall Is. white tail Chrys coming in on Wed. Since I don't have time to order needed meds and what not, can anyone tell me what I can use that can be picked up for Petsmart (Ugh, I hate that place)?

 

[LargeAngels]

knowse: You can get any meds shipped overnight. Two methods that people use Formalin baths with or without FW dips. Other method is Copper and Marcyn II. Those two should be available at Petsmart. Do searches here and read everything you can. These are NOT easy to take care of and most of them die. I really don't recommend anyone getting these unless they are prepared and knowledgeable about these guys.

 

[ezhoops]

Knowse
I tried both methods and the formalin method I used I used because they needed urgent care and both ended up dying. For this pair pictured I used Copperafe and Maracyn II and both are doing awesome. I'm not saying one method is better than the other but this is JMO.

If your a relative newbie to these guys the formalin dips can be intimidating, and scaring. I personally don't like them. Others on here swear by them and have great success. I guess you should use whatever QT method you feel comfortable with but PLEASE research your method first.

click below for more info on disease treatments
http://www.rareclownfish.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=23&sid=58ece5af097cd38038f63aa7a0000526

 

[criccio]

For Petsmart shoppers, be sure to print the product/price from one of the cheap online guys because Petsmart will honor the competitors price, and you save some cash.


Did you guys use Maracyn II over Maracyn for any particular reason?

 

[leebca]

One of the best meds is Maracyn Two for Saltwater fish. That contains the antibiotic, Minocycline, along with B complex vitamins to improve appetite. This antibiotic is absorbed through the fish's skin and will help it with internal infections. For a slightly more hard hitting punch when the bacteria may be Gram Negative, is to use both Maracyn Two and Maracyn One, together.

It is preferred to use these Maracyn products for Saltwater Fishes. The ââ"šÂ¬Ã‹Å“Saltwater Fishââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ formulae contains B complex vitamins to stimulate appetite of the fish. However, you can achieve success using just Maracyn Two and/or Maracyn One for freshwater fishes, in your saltwater QT.

A good article on antibiotics: http://www.reefs.org/library/article/r_toonen.html

Maracyn One contains Erythromycin, Maracyn Two contains Minocycline. Two very different meds for different bacteria. One antibiotic attacks gram positive bacteria and the other, gram negative. Knowing the type of bacteria you are battling comes in handy when choosing one over the other. If you donââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t know the kind of bacteria you are dealing with, then you need to go by the fact that most bacterial infections in marine fish are GRAM NEGATIVE bacteria. Thus, Maracyn Two for Saltwater fishes would be the medication of choice. The great thing about this medication is that it will work even when your fish will not eat. It penetrates into the fish and even helps the fish overcome internal bacterial infections (like those that cause eye swelling and/or Popeye conditions). Also, it has no adverse affect on your bio-filter activity. It leaves those bacteria alone.

Maracyn One for Saltwater fish is an antibiotic that attacks GRAM POSITIVE bacteria. This medication will have a distinct negative impact on the biological filter (as do most GRAM POSITIVE antibiotics). Itââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s a must to only use this medication in a QT.

While Mardel does not promote the use of any of these meds in a reef aquarium, Maracyn Two has been reported to be successfully used in a reef. I have used Maracyn Two for Saltwater fishes in a FOWLR aquarium on several occasions without adverse affects. However, Mardel (and I) recommend you only use these products in a quarantine tank. Also, Mardel claims their Maracyn can be used while using their CopperSafe treatment.

:rollface:

 

[criccio]

Fantastic explanation Lee, thank you.

 

[leebca]

You're welcome! :dance: