New Deodronephthya sp. study group?

I recently bought an interesting crinoid that produces an outstanding amount of mucus, so much so that some gets caught on my dendro, and it seems to inflate more than i thought possible.

I looked at some images on google of crinoids and dendros. Go and look up dendros on google, and it is hard to find a pic that does not include a crinoid, look up crinoids, and most have dendros somewhere in the pic. hmmmmm.
 
this thread is long,i got to page 9 and skipped to here.i hope you all keep this up cause theres so little info out there.it took me a month to find out what i had,its a Scleronephthya sp.i noticed some others on here have it two but think they have a carnation.Scleronephthya sp. only get 3 or 4 inches.anyway heres a pic of mine at 3 months and i hope it don't die cause i did'nt know they are so difficult.this thread has alot of good info.mine likes a medium fast down current,does'nt care about light either way.i feed it cyclopeeze and dt live marine phytoplankton.i have it at the mouth of a cave.i have a pic on another thread i posted in order to find out its correct name.i'll keep going back till i've read all the pages.mines doing well.this pic is a cpl weeks old.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data...311softpink.jpg
 
Quantifying Dendro food?

Quantifying Dendro food?

Previously posted but I think this is an important question:

It seems the goal with Dendros is to feed as much as possible.

Would 3 times a day feeding for a school of Anthias plus some phytoplankton additions (automated nightly), sponge squeezings (for bacteria), detritus substrate stiring (automated), refugium food supply (constant), floc from the sump settling area (automated with a timed powerhead) and a golden pearls/ultra-pac/cylcopeeze/oyster egg cocktail (auto-dosed from an attached refrigerator) be enough?
 
Sam-

All of those food items given at the same time would be enough I would think, however pollution control would be tough.

Your time would more likely be better invested in a constant drip phyto. supply as this would supply a basic food source for the dendros. and zooplankton.

And yes, i think that a population of fish has a benificial effect on corals (photosynthetic and non-photosynthetic). But i believe the dendros grow on the fish cages because it is high in the water, and has excellent flow rather than the fish. Dendros commonly grow on oil rigs and oyster cages as well, which lack the high populations of fish/fish food.
 
Re: Quantifying Dendro food?

Re: Quantifying Dendro food?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7700416#post7700416 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sammy33
Previously posted but I think this is an important question:

It seems the goal with Dendros is to feed as much as possible.

Would 3 times a day feeding for a school of Anthias plus some phytoplankton additions (automated nightly), sponge squeezings (for bacteria), detritus substrate stiring (automated), refugium food supply (constant), floc from the sump settling area (automated with a timed powerhead) and a golden pearls/ultra-pac/cylcopeeze/oyster egg cocktail (auto-dosed from an attached refrigerator) be enough?
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Pollution is going to be your issue. Getting a huge skimmer isnt going to solve your problems either ... I think a skimmer big enough to control the pollution would suck up to much dendro food.

I have read this entire thread and have been following it for awhile, this is what I plan to do.

Feed,
Ultra-Pack
Sponge Squeezes Daily
Stir top 1" of sand bed in display and refugium daily
Low-Flow refugium for diatom growth wich will be scraped daily
Rock Blasting from turkey baster
Commercial Shrimp feed 2-3x a week

Placement,
In front of overflow to get a good source of laminer flow

Filtration,
Large Refugium
2 ATScrubber 250's rated for 100g each
Coil Denitrator
Phos Reactor
Feed 100% live food to fish to minimize bioload

I would aviod goldeb pearls, cyclopeeze, and oyster eggs ... I think they are all to big. I also suggest you dont use a protien skimmer to aviod removing possible dendro food. I plan on using algae turf scrubbers and possibly a phos reactor. The higher the fish load the more problem keeping pollution under control.
 
sounds like way to much work to be kept up with but i'd like to see how it works out for you.i know with my Scleronephthya sp. that a wavemaker is crucial.i know that some people that are having success are using cyclopeeze along with phyto.even if some of that stuff is big you may want to give it some for variety.
 
yes, mine eats cyclopeeze, not the actual red critters, but the small chunks that float off. As a matter of fact, the area below the polyps is red on some of the polyps after feeding cyclopeeze.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7714805#post7714805 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ziggy222
that gives me ideas.i wonder if you can buy chopped up cyclopeeze thats reel fine.
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Maybe even try Cyclopeeze in a blender? I think that mcox33 (Mary) is using a LFS blender recipe?

If food particle size is an issue, what is the preferred "bite size" for Dendros?

50 Microns or less?

:confused:
 
no idea but they do seem to grab the brine shrimp nupli and cyclopeeze and when I make the local mix I crush the flakes to powder first.
 
not sure if this has been discussed but have any of you tried Kent marine phytoplex, chromaplex, or zooplex?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7744748#post7744748 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by john37
not sure if this has been discussed but have any of you tried Kent marine phytoplex, chromaplex, or zooplex?
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I have tried the phytoplex with fair results on my Taro and Kenya (Neptheids) and some other softies. Phytoplex is a preserved liquid so it does not provoke the same feeding response as a live phyto like DT's or Phyto-feast Live.

Maybe some of the others will chime in?
 
I think it is a shame to find the dendro topic on the second page of the forum. Therefore this reply. Secondly I am wondering why so little people have posted pictures of their animals in the gallery. I am curious to see what kind of dendro's members are really keeping.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7796515#post7796515 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ivan1407
I think it is a shame to find the dendro topic on the second page of the forum. Therefore this reply. Secondly I am wondering why so little people have posted pictures of their animals in the gallery. I am curious to see what kind of dendro's members are really keeping.
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I agree. This thread contains a great deal of information (text) but only a handfull of pics. I have not started keeping any Dendros (yet) but would be happy to post images if I had them. I do have a Neptheid im my gallery (Capnella) but not any aposymbiotic like Dendro.

Would any of you care to share some new pics? I would love to see some progress or growth shots. Then and now images. :cool:
 
I would have to sort though thousands to find them and I just don't have the time anymore.

Also when I had time to take them it was a real pain to post them. Back before I found out about photobucket.com.
 
I can imagine the picture in my mind if that helps anyone!

thanks,

Rick

P.S. Sorry for the cheap shot, but I would like to see them too!
 
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