New Hawaii order thread

miwoodar where do you get your vho bulbs and what brand, how much, and hows the selection if you dont mind me asking?
 
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Runningstix - I'll PM you so this thread can stay on track.

Mdrumm - These days I keep at least one in reserve at all times. If my reserve dies though you'll be the first person I call.
 
I feel kinda the same way Stonkers does on this. I would hate to give any business to the panty bunching troglodyte who caused all the problems. Its not really fair to punish the good guys for the actions of a couple of jerks so I hope the facts come out at some point.
 
Let's not say who it was because I don't want to know. He could be eating ramen noodles every night to keep his store open. If he's driving a Lexus - shame on him.
 
Just because I think it's fun to play Devil's Advocate...How do we know that Alex didn't just invent this issue so he could make more money?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11418712#post11418712 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by miwoodar
Let's not say who it was because I don't want to know. He could be eating ramen noodles every night to keep his store open. If he's driving a Lexus - shame on him.

If you hit a bad patch and end up living on Ramen noodles do you think the store is going to sell you food or supplies at cost so you can keep your critters alive?
 
I believe you when you say that the LFS's go in the red on livestock sometimes but, why should I pay 300-400 for a mysteri wrasse when he buys it for less than 60? That's a pretty big profit margin. I know his fish hotel doesn't have turndown service and complimentary liquor cabinet so it must be the extremely high quality water that he's charging us a 500% markup. I don't think he's going to have a glut of mysteri's (or any high dollar fishes) anytime in the near future. So why try to deny us the capability to obtain these fish? I believe he's under the impression that if we buy a mysteri from Alex that he's losing $200+. Nothing could be further from the truth because I would never spend that kind of money for a fish from a LFS unless it came with year warranty.
 
Nearly every fish in a LFS has a 300-500% markup. It is a fact. The markup covers the large % of DOA fish that they get when they make their orders. Most suppliers don't give an "arrive alive" guarantee and so the LFS has to eat the cost of that fish. Guess what, it gets passed on to us. The thing that gets me is when the stores charge $40 for a $15 fish because the LFS "quarantined" it. The store who is whining should just go unbunch their panties and get over it. Do they cry to the other vendors that we do group buys from as well?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11419638#post11419638 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bmb527
The markup covers the large % of DOA fish that they get when they make their orders.
There lies the problem. If the LFS's would buy aquacultured fish rather than buying wild caught, they would have an extremely low % of DOA fish. But since wild caught fish are so cheap on paper, they like the look of the price better.
Is it better to buy 100 wild caught oscellaris for $2 each and have a 50% death rate? Or is it better to buy 100 aquacultured oscellaris for $4 each and have a 5% DOA? Assume that he will sell them for $15 apiece. He could sell his remaining wild caught for $750 giving him a profit of $550. If he charged only $11 each for the aquacultured oscellaris, he could still sell the remaining fish for $990 which would give him a profit of $590. That sounds like a better deal to the customer and more profit for the LFS.
Most LFS's will probably still go with the wild caught because they are only $2 apiece.
OK, I'll get off my box now....
 
As far as the clowns and fish that reproduce well in captivity, I think most shops do buy captive bred. But, most of us have Tangs, Wrasses and such that do not breed well in captivity. I have also seen orders of captive bred fish die in shipping.
 
fine. I'll reveal the info that everyone has been dying to find out. THE LFS IN QUESTION IS..................................


PETSMART.

there. I said it. everyone happy now?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11420536#post11420536 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mdrumm
fine. I'll reveal the info that everyone has been dying to find out. THE LFS IN QUESTION IS..................................


PETSMART.

there. I said it. everyone happy now?

Obviously, you must not have properly executed that NDA. :)

-Rob
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11418846#post11418846 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by aspenimages
Just because I think it's fun to play Devil's Advocate...How do we know that Alex didn't just invent this issue so he could make more money?
Good point!!
 
Well its a well known fact, that theres a secret society of the 5 wealthiest people in the world known as the Pentaverate...who run everything in the world including the HAWAIIN FISH ORDERS AND LFS'S that meet triannually at a country mansion in Colorado known as The Meadows."

"So Whos in this Pentaverate?"

"The Queen, The Vatican, The Gettys, The Rothchildes, AND Colonel Sanders before he went tits up. Ahh hated the Colonel with his wee beady eyes and that smug look onhis face...ooooh your gonna buy my chicken oooh!"

"how can you hate the Colonel?"

"Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes you crave it fortnightly..Smartarse!"
 
Petsmart??? IF they ever had the type of fish we are ordering, would anyone buy it? Sorry, I know they are trying, but please be serious! I can see how Alex would not want to lose their business however.
 
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