New Hybrid Clownfish on DD

[CoralsAddiction]

There is a new (at least to me) hybrid clownfish bred by ORA on Diver's Den. It's a cross between Gold Stripe Maroon and Saddleback clowns. It doesn't look bad actually for a captive bred clown but pairing it with another clown will probably present its own challenges. Here's a link and picture. Let me know what you think
http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?c=2733+3&ddid=317856

 

[this is me]

Will the stripes turn to gold/yellow?

 

[CoralsAddiction]

Will the stripes turn to gold/yellow?

Probably the stripes will stay white. The clowns description says it's almost 3" in size and would have likely developed yellow stripes by now.

 

[ThRoewer]

I wonder if this was an accident or intentional.

 

[CoralsAddiction]

I wonder if this was an accident or intentional.

Initial pairing might have been accidental but breeding was for sure intentional. I think both were intentional because it's a hatchery known for producing hybrid clowns.

 

[RyanSweatt2004]

I gotta say I actually like that clown. Not crazy about the spot but at least it matches side to side and the fish doesn't appear to be greatly deformed like many Ora clowns.

 

[ThRoewer]

Initial pairing might have been accidental but breeding was for sure intentional. I think both were intentional because it's a hatchery known for producing hybrid clowns.

I don't think that it would ever work as a pairing, but was rather thinking of accidental cross-fertilization when two pairs were spawning at the same time.
That's how they got the bloodorange clowns.

Setting up mixed pairs is a rather difficult thing with not closely related fish like percula and ocellaris or the different clarkii lookalikes.
Even PNG or Solomon A. chrysopterus (or whatever species it will turn out to be) are to my knowledge never found paired with A. sandaracinos, but only with their common hybrid form (A. "leucocranos") which may have been created by an accidental cross-fertilization in the wild.

 

[RyanSweatt2004]

I'm actually surprised nobody has bought it yet. If I didn't have my wild pair of perculas already I'd actually consider getting this clown. Be better if it was a pair though.

 

[CoralsAddiction]

I'm actually surprised nobody has bought it yet.

It's gone now.

 

[ThRoewer]

Don't tell me someone bought that chimera to cross it with yet another species?
Are there not enough mystery clownfish hybrids in circulation yet? :debi:

 

[tonysi]

Don't tell me someone bought that chimera to cross it with yet another species?
Are there not enough mystery clownfish hybrids in circulation yet? :debi:

I hope this doesn't turn out like the case of the Darwin clowns..... You can't even buy one from a lfs without knowing it's true lineage. It might have regular occ. genes.

 

[D-Nak]

I hope this doesn't turn out like the case of the Darwin clowns..... You can't even buy one from a lfs without knowing it's true lineage. It might have regular occ. genes.

Unfortunately I think this is now the case is many store bought clowns. :headwally:

 

[LargeAngels]

Agree. Too many.

 

[ThRoewer]

There is a reason why I prefer wild caught clownfish, especially ocellaris and percula.

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[phender]

I don't think that it would ever work as a pairing, but was rather thinking of accidental cross-fertilization when two pairs were spawning at the same time.
That's how they got the bloodorange clowns.

Setting up mixed pairs is a rather difficult thing with not closely related fish like percula and ocellaris or the different clarkii lookalikes.
Even PNG or Solomon A. chrysopterus (or whatever species it will turn out to be) are to my knowledge never found paired with A. sandaracinos, but only with their common hybrid form (A. "leucocranos") which may have been created by an accidental cross-fertilization in the wild.

While cross fertilization is certainly a possible explanation, there actually was at least one A. chrysopterus x A. sandaracinos pairing that has been found in the wild. It was one of the things that lead to the hypothesis that leucocranos was a hybrid. Supposedly a team of biologists collected a nest from the pair and raised the babies, which turned out to look like leucs, but I have never found any actual documentation for that part of the story.

Considering that clowns can lay 100's of eggs every two weeks over a period of 20 years. It is conceivable that all the original leucs may have come from this single pair. Fish that we call leucs now may more likely be leucs crossed with something else. Leucs are more often seen paired with chrysopterus, sandaracinos and clarki in the wild than they are with other leucs.