Hi guys, I did a 210 gallons WC last night to start removing the CP from the system since I notice the butterflies and the aquiles with cloudy eyes, I going to do another one tonight (200 gal) so I can add Prazipro to the system my guess is that flukes show up now, I was hoping that I could use PraziPro with CP but I couldn't find any information that will assure me that I could so I will do another water change tonight before start dosing it.
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Salty150
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Did you use it as a preventive quarantine or to treat already visible signs?
Dmorty217
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If they are still eating thats a good sign. When I lost all my fish to secondary infections they had stopped eating.
Mishri
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CP when visible signs of velvet appeared. prazipro because I saw something on the eye of the tang and thought he might have had flukes. added the pimafix and melafix after I realized the thing on the tang's eye was an infection (likely from a scratch from glancing). So far all fish are doing great. It's been about 10 days since I ended treatment... Oh, and at the beginning I had a bacterial bloom had to use UV to clear up.. I was using a 24g nano tank with LR (no corals) as a QT tank... since then I took all the sand/rock out and made it a proper QT... If CP appears to be long term success I'll consider dosing it as a preventative.
Dmorty217
Saltwater Addict
Yes for Popeye and I had a grouper that injured a eye and then the other became cloudy and a few days of Epsom salt cleared the issue up. 1 tablespoon per 5g. You can't overdose the product since it's mostly magnesium. I know several who have used it with success. Make sure the Epsom salt says USP on it
Dmorty217
Saltwater Addict
Your Achilles, Mitratus and Declivis hit real close to home for me so I want to try and help you with them as much and in any way possible
okay thanks, I am in Voorhees NJ. Maybe a little to far, but I appreciate the thought. Current tank mates; Large angels: Conspicuos, Christmas Island emperor, scribble, true personifer, red sea regal, goldflake, dwarf angels; venustus, golden (arantias), Tangs; male blonde naso, aquiles, yellow belly hippo, Butterflies; thinkers, declivis, mitratus, golden, morish idol, magnificent fox face, borbonias anthia, pair of Rhamboids wrasses, pair of flame wrasses, now just the male lineatus, two Hawaiian cleaner wrasses ( last addition) last month. Looking for a interruptus angel fish.
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Update to Ick Shield Powder treatment:
March 8 -- Initial dosage 6 spoons for about 110 or a little less actual water.
From above for convenience, the 8th day update:
Algae film on glass is gray so it looks like cloudy water. That with the green and red lights ... Yuck does the tank look like crap. Remaining snails which I did not get out are dead. Couple large bristle worms on surface tonight dead. I'll get them and some of the dead snails out tomorrow.
Fish behavior better and appetite returning with the exception of the kole tang which is still hiding all the time. I did see it swim in the very back behind the rocks and the motion looked slightly better but too early to tell. Midas blenny looks good with dorsal fin fully erect for first time in 3 weeks. Wrasses improved but not as much. Someone tell them to stop sleeping in the sand. PJ Cardinals hover posture leveling again so also better.
Now interstng side note. Vermetid snails which I expected to have a hard time or die have all developed white tips on their tubes. Presume that means they are dead and the tubes are losing color as a result. I'm going to scrub every rock as I do water changes. Course when I put the coral back I'll be reintroducing vermetids. I see no way around that.
Corals in QT. Trachy is doing great. Lower current and less light than anywhere in the DT. Everything else except a Duncan which is neutral is suffering to some degree or another due to not enough current or light. I'll have to improve this.
March 28 -- 12% water change. I added 3 more spoonfuls of the ISP to compensate for the water change and as a "booster shot" for the expected breakdown of the CP. Supposedly the fish can tolerate much higher amounts but I think this is as high as I will go. 21 days is the prescribed treatment if fish were moved to a clean QT tank but I will run this now until May 24, which is 11 weeks from the start of treatment.
Fish behavior pretty normal although I think that they are slightly skittish. Perhaps that's my fault for not spending enough time in front of the tank.
The glass is covered with a grey film, bacterial or dead algae I don't know. I'm not cleaning the glass as I'm not running the skimmer and don't want to add mechanical filtration. This will remain until the skimmer is back up.
Started to scrub one rock to remove the vermetid snails/skeletons. FUGETTABOUTIT> Steel brush is no match. It's one at a time with a nipper or screwdriver or teaspoon etc. to get these things off and I gave up. Gonna live with these until I do my next tank, which will be started DRY and every thing which goes in will be QT'd inspected dipped *&%&^$%@)&*^_ you get the idea.
Corals in QT. Fascinating to see which are doing well and which are not. Trachy huge. Orange Florida Ricordia, more tan color but expansion is tremendous, Duncan eh and I really don't want to lose this one. Blue short hand polyps stable but pale, blue palys and mixed zoas stable but don't appear happy, yellow polyps not happy but still open and 60-70% expanded, pulsing xenia not expanded well at all, green striped mushrooms not happy and several have released and are slowly drifting around, green star polyps growing faster than they ever did in the DT. (HAH!!) Plus the QT is growing hair algae.
Also fallowing my cheato with the snails I managed to save.
That's it for today.
Update to Ick Shield Powder treatment:
March 8 -- Initial dosage 6 spoons for about 110 or a little less actual water.
From above for convenience, the 8th day update:
Algae film on glass is gray so it looks like cloudy water. That with the green and red lights ... Yuck does the tank look like crap. Remaining snails which I did not get out are dead. Couple large bristle worms on surface tonight dead. I'll get them and some of the dead snails out tomorrow.
Fish behavior better and appetite returning with the exception of the kole tang which is still hiding all the time. I did see it swim in the very back behind the rocks and the motion looked slightly better but too early to tell. Midas blenny looks good with dorsal fin fully erect for first time in 3 weeks. Wrasses improved but not as much. Someone tell them to stop sleeping in the sand. PJ Cardinals hover posture leveling again so also better.
Now interstng side note. Vermetid snails which I expected to have a hard time or die have all developed white tips on their tubes. Presume that means they are dead and the tubes are losing color as a result. I'm going to scrub every rock as I do water changes. Course when I put the coral back I'll be reintroducing vermetids. I see no way around that.
Corals in QT. Trachy is doing great. Lower current and less light than anywhere in the DT. Everything else except a Duncan which is neutral is suffering to some degree or another due to not enough current or light. I'll have to improve this.
March 28 -- 12% water change. I added 3 more spoonfuls of the ISP to compensate for the water change and as a "booster shot" for the expected breakdown of the CP. Supposedly the fish can tolerate much higher amounts but I think this is as high as I will go. 21 days is the prescribed treatment if fish were moved to a clean QT tank but I will run this now until May 24, which is 11 weeks from the start of treatment.
Fish behavior pretty normal although I think that they are slightly skittish. Perhaps that's my fault for not spending enough time in front of the tank.
The glass is covered with a grey film, bacterial or dead algae I don't know. I'm not cleaning the glass as I'm not running the skimmer and don't want to add mechanical filtration. This will remain until the skimmer is back up.
Started to scrub one rock to remove the vermetid snails/skeletons. FUGETTABOUTIT> Steel brush is no match. It's one at a time with a nipper or screwdriver or teaspoon etc. to get these things off and I gave up. Gonna live with these until I do my next tank, which will be started DRY and every thing which goes in will be QT'd inspected dipped *&%&^$%@)&*^_ you get the idea.
Corals in QT. Fascinating to see which are doing well and which are not. Trachy huge. Orange Florida Ricordia, more tan color but expansion is tremendous, Duncan eh and I really don't want to lose this one. Blue short hand polyps stable but pale, blue palys and mixed zoas stable but don't appear happy, yellow polyps not happy but still open and 60-70% expanded, pulsing xenia not expanded well at all, green striped mushrooms not happy and several have released and are slowly drifting around, green star polyps growing faster than they ever did in the DT. (HAH!!) Plus the QT is growing hair algae.
Also fallowing my cheato with the snails I managed to save.
That's it for today.
I am now on day 16 of the treatment using the NLS Ich Shield Powder.
The fish are all extremely active for being in little to no light other than ambient lighting. I do turn my reds and greens on for a bit to look at the fish and get the firefish to come out of hiding. They do not like the lights out treatment. I have noticed that some of the fish are becoming a little more aggressive towards each other.
All of my corals in the 150 gallon fallow QT tub are thriving, no fish to bother them and I think they are happier in there. They are going to be there for another 6-8 weeks.
I too have a gray film on the glass, no algae growing anywhere. The coralline algae still seem unaffected and has neither grown nor died off. All the hermit crabs are still cruising around like normal, but I haven't seen my cleaner shrimp for a few days. I'm not sure if they have finally succumb to the treatment or if they are just hiding really well.
Last night I turned on the white LEDs for about 10 minutes to observe the fish. All the fish look great, no spots, no secondary infections. I did see a couple of fish that looked like they had been quarreling a little bit but nothing serious. I swear I saw two of my tangs flash against a rock one time each. Whether or not it's something to worry about remains unknown. I'm hoping they just had an itch like we all do from time to time.
The fish are all extremely active for being in little to no light other than ambient lighting. I do turn my reds and greens on for a bit to look at the fish and get the firefish to come out of hiding. They do not like the lights out treatment. I have noticed that some of the fish are becoming a little more aggressive towards each other.
All of my corals in the 150 gallon fallow QT tub are thriving, no fish to bother them and I think they are happier in there. They are going to be there for another 6-8 weeks.
I too have a gray film on the glass, no algae growing anywhere. The coralline algae still seem unaffected and has neither grown nor died off. All the hermit crabs are still cruising around like normal, but I haven't seen my cleaner shrimp for a few days. I'm not sure if they have finally succumb to the treatment or if they are just hiding really well.
Last night I turned on the white LEDs for about 10 minutes to observe the fish. All the fish look great, no spots, no secondary infections. I did see a couple of fish that looked like they had been quarreling a little bit but nothing serious. I swear I saw two of my tangs flash against a rock one time each. Whether or not it's something to worry about remains unknown. I'm hoping they just had an itch like we all do from time to time.
