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Dow Lot Number Question

Dow Lot Number Question

I have read that Dow flake lot numbers starting with "U" were made in 2006 and should not have a bromide problem. My problem is that it is very difficult to read the lot number on my bag.

Here is a link on how to decode a Dow lot number:

http://dow-gco.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/dow_gc...amp;p_topview=1

Can anyone look at thier bag and tell me if there is a colon used after the word "Lot" in the lot number?

If so I think my bag reads Lot: UC10????

Thanks for any help.

Bruce

Here are some pictures of my lot number using various angles and lighting:

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Randy, your recipe calls to bake 2 1/4 cups of bisodium, but I've started baking about a gallon at a time and then making solution measured post-bake. Can you tell me how many teaspoons to remove from the 2 1/4 cups to account for the missing water and CO2?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12463489#post12463489 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Saddler
Randy, your recipe calls to bake 2 1/4 cups of bisodium, but I've started baking about a gallon at a time and then making solution measured post-bake. Can you tell me how many teaspoons to remove from the 2 1/4 cups to account for the missing water and CO2?
It shall be around 1.4 to 1.5 (1-1/2) cups of baked baking soda depending on the final bulk density.
Weight wise you will need 371 grams of sodium carbonate instead of 594 grams of baking soda assuming all the baking soda converts to sodium cabonate during baking.
 
Saddler:

Are you storing this baked baking soda for later dissolution? I would think for consistency sake you should bake only as much as you need. Otherwise I think CO2 and water could be absorbed when storing (think of clumping when storing sugar). Maybe this is not the case, it is just my opinion.

DW302
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12498898#post12498898 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by WaterssretaW
is arm and hammer baking soda okay?
Yes, that is the one everyone uses.
 
I have a couple bags of Peladow - the lot number appears to be VF0401HI12. The August 2005 notice from Dow says that:

"For bulk shipments, lot numbers beginning with the letter "U" will designate product with the new impurity profile. For packaged products, lot numbers ending with the letters "PC" will designate product with the new impurity profile."

Does anyone know if 50lb bags of Peladow are considered "packaged" products? And, if so, would these be considered "old" formula since they do not contain the PC designation, although the lot date would be April 07 from the lot number?
 
Randy,

I am using the 2 part solution from bulkreefsupply. I have been noticing in order for me to keep my alk and ca where i want it at (9dKH alk and 450ppm ca) I have to dose 10ml more of alk a day then ca . is this normal? am i doing something wrong? i was always under the impression that it should be a equal daily dosage
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12529186#post12529186 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DevilBoy
Randy,

I am using the 2 part solution from bulkreefsupply. I have been noticing in order for me to keep my alk and ca where i want it at (9dKH alk and 450ppm ca) I have to dose 10ml more of alk a day then ca . is this normal? am i doing something wrong? i was always under the impression that it should be a equal daily dosage
Assuming you are not having any abiotic precipitation that can give the impression that more alkalinity than calcium is being consummed most probably it is a variation in the solution concentration.
It is very difficult to achieve the perfect solution concentrations using cups as masuring due to variances and differences in the powder degree of moisture and bulk density.
Just make the alkalinity solution a bit stronger and you will be OK.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12529474#post12529474 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DevilBoy
what is abiotic precipitation ?
Formation of Calcium carbonate in which a living organism (Like corals or clams) did not participate. In other words is the simple chemical combination of calcium and carbonate alkalinity to form calcium carbonate due to supersaturated conditions usually characterized by high PH and high levels of calcium and /or alkalinity.

When calcium and alkalinity form calcium carbonate precipitate without us noticing it can give the impression that calcium and alkalinity consumption in our system is higher than what the actual consumption by calcifying organisms is. The end result could be that we keep on increasing our supplementation increasing the precipitation and creating a vicious circle. More precipitation > more supplementation and so on until the precipitation becomes noticeable in the way of a "snow" effect or heavy incrustations of calcium carbonate on heaters, pump impellers and shafts, GFO media or sand turning into clumps glued together by the precipitate.
Because precipitation will consume 2.8 dKh of alkalinity for only 20 ppm of calcium and counting in the relative inaccuracies of our testing kits, it can give the impression that more alkalinity than calcium is being consumed.

What is that Precipitate in My Reef Aquarium?
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-07/rhf/index.htm
 
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i really dont think that is my problem after reading the article. I see no snow clouds or anything like that. I feel my levels are pretty good.

pH - 8.1 - 8.3
alk - 9 dKH
ca - 450ppm
mag - 1550ppm

The reason my mag is so high is that i am trying to get rid of a little bryopsis problem and i want to knock it out before it becomes a major problem. as of now it isnt just a few tufts here and there
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12529784#post12529784 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DevilBoy
i really dont think that is my problem after reading the article. I see no snow clouds or anything like that. I feel my levels are pretty good.

pH - 8.1 - 8.3
alk - 9 dKH
ca - 450ppm
mag - 1550ppm

The reason my mag is so high is that i am trying to get rid of a little bryopsis problem and i want to knock it out before it becomes a major problem. as of now it isnt just a few tufts here and there
Good, then just try adjusting the solution concentration.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12529922#post12529922 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DevilBoy
well that will be intresting for me to try and figure out, i am not a chemistry or numbers person.
That is relatively easy. Say if you are adding 60 ml of calcium part and need to add 70 ml of alkalinity part just increase the amount of powder when making the alkalinity solution by 70/60 = 1.17 times. So if you are using 1.5 increase it in this example to 1.5 x 1.17 = 1.76 cups or about 1-3/4 cups.
Follow the above example to get the right numbers.
 
When I first setup my tank I used kalk in my topoff, but switched to 2 part. Recently I added kalk back in as well. Does kalkwasser have an equalized ratio of boosting alk and ca, or is it in favor of one more than the other?
 
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