Aquarist007
New member
that's interesting --I didn't know that halibut had a but---I think I'll pass on next weeks fish and chips:lol: :rollface: :lol:
Newbie Corner Feedback Thread
- Thread starter WaterKeeper
- Start date
that's interesting --I didn't know that halibut had a but---I think I'll pass on next weeks fish and chips:lol: :rollface: :lol:
Phil,
Yes you can buy live phytoplankton, rotifers or mysid from many on-line suppliers. Some LFS may also culture their own for sale. The major drawback is that it costs more than growing your own and they only store for a fairly short period. If you do buy live rotifers or mysid it is always wise to buy the plankton too as the nutritional value of these is pretty poor unless they are well fed before using them in the tank.
Paul,
Never has a wooden tank as it is hard to see the fish but I had one made of eisenglass (muscovite).
Yes you can buy live phytoplankton, rotifers or mysid from many on-line suppliers. Some LFS may also culture their own for sale. The major drawback is that it costs more than growing your own and they only store for a fairly short period. If you do buy live rotifers or mysid it is always wise to buy the plankton too as the nutritional value of these is pretty poor unless they are well fed before using them in the tank.
Paul,
Never has a wooden tank as it is hard to see the fish but I had one made of eisenglass (muscovite).
Aquarist007
New member
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14658711#post14658711 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Paul B
Ok so your a teacher and probably have more degrees than a thermometer and I am an electrician.
I don spiel to goord.
was a teacher--degrees mean diddly squat in this hobby Paul. I am totally envious of your decision in the early 70's to go marine. I wish I had chosen that path instead of fresh water fish and gained the wisdom and experience that you have.
What keeps us only close to a level planning field here is that we both like to help others.
Aquarist007
New member
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14659006#post14659006 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by WaterKeeper
Phil,
Yes you can buy live phytoplankton, rotifers or mysid from many on-line suppliers. Some LFS may also culture their own for sale. The major drawback is that it costs more than growing your own and they only store for a fairly short period. If you do buy live rotifers or mysid it is always wise to buy the plankton too as the nutritional value of these is pretty poor unless they are well fed before using them in the tank.
Paul,
Never has a wooden tank as it is hard to see the fish but I had one made of eisenglass (muscovite).
WK---others that have raised their own plankton find that you only end up with a couple of strains---its like survivor of the fitest.
Alot of them have switched to the use of mixtures like DT phyto that contain a wide variety and are still alive.
Plus I only use phyto to feed the copopods ect in the refugiums.
Tom---an excellent article in this months Reef Keeping--great links
I'm going to look into some live rotifers for the refugiums.
Last edited:
Paul B
Premium Member
Well I got out of the Army in 71 so I figured I would try Marines.
Nothing wrong with freshwater, I had them since about 1950.
Of course I was two so I probably diden't know what they were for a couple of years but I did like them. I raised fish I can't even pronounce
I generally leaned towards the wierder fish as I still do.
Lungfish, leaf fish, eels, puffers, fresh water flounders, clingfish etc
I mainly like to help WK as us OFRs have to stick together.
Aquarist007
New member
I am assuming this was the start of your cycle from your first post:
"on 3-14-09 added sand and 60lbs LFS LR on 3-15-09 and another 50lbs LR 3-19-09."
Did you happen to make measurements before you did the water change?
If not wait two days and take some more measurement.
"Normally" you see a rise in ammonia, a decline in the ammonia and a rise in the nitrates. When the nitrates decline to zero your tank is cycled.
With adding two separate batches of live rock it is hard to tell if you are going to get a further spike in ammonia or not.
Otherwise you could just wait till you get a zero reading for nitrates.
The best procedure here is to wait and check your measurements in two days and go from there.
Aquarist007
New member
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14660163#post14660163 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Paul B
Well I got out of the Army in 71 so I figured I would try Marines.
Nothing wrong with freshwater, I had them since about 1950.
Of course I was two so I probably diden't know what they were for a couple of years but I did like them. I raised fish I can't even pronounce
I generally leaned towards the wierder fish as I still do.
Lungfish, leaf fish, eels, puffers, fresh water flounders, clingfish etc
I mainly like to help WK as us OFRs have to stick together.
You and Tom are alot a like---you both don't handle compliments well so you sluff them off with a joke.
None the less I consider you both my esteemed mentors and this place would be pretty boring without you guys.
sondaar
New member
Aye Capn on 3-14-09 was the 1st my tank seen water but the first set of "Live Rock" came from a LFS which was in one of their aquariums for many years. The 2nd set was from Pemium Aquatics and was their cured rock Fiji and Bali that rock is where all the little critters are comming from. I didnt take any readings before the water change but will start doing them every other day or so now. I'm just sitting back waiting on the algee bloom I keep reading about 
Aquarist007
New member
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14661153#post14661153 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sondaar
Aye Capn on 3-14-09 was the 1st my tank seen water but the first set of "Live Rock" came from a LFS which was in one of their aquariums for many years. The 2nd set was from Pemium Aquatics and was their cured rock Fiji and Bali that rock is where all the little critters are comming from. I didnt take any readings before the water change but will start doing them every other day or so now. I'm just sitting back waiting on the algee bloom I keep reading about
an algae bloom is not a given either--your water changes "could"
help minimize that(ouch I feel WK's scorn already
)The first batch of live rock probably will not cause any spikes(if you kept it wet and went from tank to tank)
The second batch is only partly cured if it has lots of life on it--it still could cause an ammonia spike so its worth proceeding as I suggested above.
BTW
I hope you are using ro or ro/di water for your changes
sondaar
New member
Thanks Capn.
And yes RO/DI water, just picked up a used 100g day unit. I will be doing as You, WK, and PaulB are telling me! It's really cool the way you guys help us newbs out with I'm sure the same questions asked over and over and over and etc...................! Not alot of people out there that have the patients to deal with us! I really appreciate what you guys do and all the help !
:beer:
Thanks Again
Mike
And yes RO/DI water, just picked up a used 100g day unit. I will be doing as You, WK, and PaulB are telling me! It's really cool the way you guys help us newbs out with I'm sure the same questions asked over and over and over and etc...................! Not alot of people out there that have the patients to deal with us! I really appreciate what you guys do and all the help !
:beer:
Thanks Again
Mike
Aquarist007
New member
thanks but don't be too quick to compliment --we haven't had time to screw up yet:lol:
I'm sorry if this has already been asked and it most likely has. I'm planning on setting up a reef tank in the near future.
I'm considering getting a tank with the following sizes
48x24x30 or
48x24x24
Will the 30" tall tank be to difficult to maintain since it may be hard to reach into? I will only be able to access it from the front since it will be up against a wall.
I'm considering getting a tank with the following sizes
48x24x30 or
48x24x24
Will the 30" tall tank be to difficult to maintain since it may be hard to reach into? I will only be able to access it from the front since it will be up against a wall.
Alaska_Phil
New member
How long are your arms? I'm 6' and can just reach the bottom of my 24" high 65 gal. With a 30" deep tank I think you'd definitly want some long tongs or grippers for moving stuff around.
Phil
Phil
Not at all ,I figure anyone who compliments me is either very gullible or also is joking.
BTW-You are right. There are some cases where there is not any major algae bloom. Pick up rock from the LFS and there is seldom any outbreak and on-line cured has a minor one if it is not delayed in transport.
Aquarist007
New member
definetly I have a 30 inch high 110 gal. I would never reccommend this height to anyone. Alot of my fish esp my tangs would have preferred 6 feet of swimming length as to four feet.
the first measurements are probably mine 110 gal--I would step it up to a 120 gal and go for the 6 feet and drop in height.
Aquarist007
New member
I am defintely not gullible( only to spousal manipulations
) and when I am giving an honest compliment I am not joking. You and Paul are two of my most esteemed respected mentors in this hobby.:thumbsup:
Aquarist007
New member
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14691304#post14691304 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Paul B
Waterkeeper, I wonder what he is smoking?
He doesen't realize we are making this stuff up as we go along.
the stuff seems to be working
Similar threads
