Nine peppermint angels!!!!

To clarify, I have no issue with the collector/wholesaler/retailer chain of operation. I do, however, have an issue with companies acting as if they already have a peppermint angel in their possession when they did not even bother to contact us. It gives the wrong impression that these fish are becoming commonplace. Companies such as Blueharbor who actually brought in nine C. Boylei, should be the ones reaping the recognition for their investment. That is all.
The bulk of our company's business is on the wholesale end and consists of both common and rare fish. As a general rule, we rarely deal directly with the end consumer to avoid conflicts with our wholesale buyers. It is not our intention to compete with them. This issue, however, is a bit different. The majority of peppermint angels that we collected are going to wholesale companies - although there is a tiny amount of them going directly to select hobbyists. The reason for this is twofold. First, we care about these fish and have become quite attached to them - wishing that they get the best care possible. If we ship directly from our facility to the end consumer it eliminates a potentially stressful transit though a wholesale shop. Secondly, some of these hobbyists are our friends so of course we're going to hook them up.
There are a lot of misconceptions about the amount of $$$ that some people think we are making off these fish. 90% of the peppermints collected are sold at wholesale cost. We have a team of 6 people (three divers and three surface support) working 7 days a week for two weeks in order to make this expedition a reality. The equipment needed is a bit expensive, and this particular trip is the end result of five trips over the course of the past five years spent scouting, figuring out logistics and so on.
Different people have different values. I cannot fault a person for spending thousands of dollars on a fish or thousands of dollars on a shiny Rolex. Whatever makes you happy. We are just trying to provide a service to those who find happiness in a little candy striped fish that lives at the bottom of the ocean.
These fish were collected between 350-485 feet at an average temperature of 76 degrees. They are extremely delicate during the collection process but seem to stabilize once they settle into captivity. Good luck to those who end up getting these fish. We enjoyed collecting them and hope that they live fat, healthy lives for many years to come.
 
Congrats Rufus and continued luck with all future endeavors and collections! I am looking forward to seeing what you will be collecting next...
 
485 feet... Francisco "Pipin" Ferreras perfomed a free dive 531.5 ft. Lol thats pretty awesome. I noticed in a couple of your picture that you had a cage. I was wondering if you catch them and the place them in the cage or trap them in the cage and collect them out. Obviously this could be a trade secret and out of bounds so no worries about responding with specifics.

The whole thing is just exciting for me, as it was last year as well. I'd love to see pictures of your boat as well.
 
485 feet... Francisco "Pipin" Ferreras perfomed a free dive 531.5 ft. Lol thats pretty awesome. I noticed in a couple of your picture that you had a cage. I was wondering if you catch them and the place them in the cage or trap them in the cage and collect them out. Obviously this could be a trade secret and out of bounds so no worries about responding with specifics.

The whole thing is just exciting for me, as it was last year as well. I'd love to see pictures of your boat as well.

i think the cage is for decompressing...it takes 10-12 hours for a fish to decompress from such depth without pinning the air bladder.... perhaps it keep those fishes less stressed during that period than they would be in a plastic bucket...
 
Yeah, no kidding, I went down to 175 feet at Truk Lagoon once, ONCE! Really nerve wracking. Cannot image 485 feet. Most impressive (Darth Vader voice)!

Or Christian Bale Batman voice!

Seriously though, incredible work Rufus. It's a privilege to be reading about this.
 
Hopefully, I'll be able to see one in person this week. Just heard about one coming to a shop near me in Orlando.

Fingers crossed.
 
These fish were collected between 350-485 feet at an average temperature of 76 degrees. They are extremely delicate during the collection process but seem to stabilize once they settle into captivity. Good luck to those who end up getting these fish. We enjoyed collecting them and hope that they live fat, healthy lives for many years to come.

Thanks Rufus, appreciate the info. Much warmer than I would have expected at that depth.
 
People risk their lives in jobs everyday for a lot less than what he could make in a years time just on this fish alone. we will say hypothetically 10k each (which we all know is way lower than what each will see for) 90K for a days dive x's 12 months 90x12=1,080,000$... Not too shabby even after expenses

how often do you get 9 pep per trip?
your argument is already flawed

lets assume 15 rares per trip per month
average wholesale price at 3k per rare

team of 6 working 18 days per month("double" day for weekend)

revenue 3k x 15 = 45k
profit after "prorated operational cost" assuming 30% = 31.5k
profit sharing, assuming diver 70%, support 30%
7.35k per diver, 3.15k per support(monthly)
408 per diver, 175 per support(daily)

not to mention the 3 divers are risking their lives every trip
imo i will not hesitant if i have the money and chance to get 1 of these rares

to me these 9 pep is more like a bonus to them
we get bonus once a year, they get once every 3 years? 5 years? N years?
 
holy crap... thats a looooot of money for a fish. what would happen if you had a tank emergency and it died :/.

awesome looking fish though. wish i could afford something like that.. thanks student loans
 
what would happen if you had a tank emergency and it died :/

Redundancy. Things can happen like with Dave's tank, but after you start investing in these fish you also invest in SYSTEMS to help avoid catastrophe. I just installed a new electrical panel for just my fishtanks as well as a transfer switch to run my systems on generator power in case of a power outage.
 
holy crap... thats a looooot of money for a fish. what would happen if you had a tank emergency and it died :/.

awesome looking fish though. wish i could afford something like that.. thanks student loans

The majority of the people that get a fish like this do not have tank emergencies, they have back ups for their back ups. Nothing goes wrong in their tanks
 
I just re-read that and it came out wrong. Dave had tons of checks on his system and had a very flukey issue that resulted in some losses. You ca't plan for everything, but you see these guys with amazing tanks and alot of their success comes from great planning.
 
Rufus. Thank you. I am one of the reefers who purchased from jonathan of country critters. My name is andrew sandler. I will take great care of the pair with our yellow friend. Thanks for making it possible. ,,,,!!!! I will post after they are in. They are going into a separate 90 attached to a 1500gallon sps system.
 
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