no cycle needed

damitchsta

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hello everyone didn't know where to post so i am going here. what do you think about the additives that add bacteria so there is no need for cycle is this safe for reef tanks or realy just for FO tanks. thanks in advance
mitchell
 

kjbudsberg

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My advice is to be patient and allow the cycle to happen with uncured live rock. With 2 months under your belt, you should be nearly there, although your livestock list did catch my eye for danger in a tank that has not finished its primary cycle. Beware, you are probably beyond your stocking limit in a 55.
 

bertoni

Premium Member
There isn't any evidence that those products work for saltwater setups with live rock. What kind of setup are you planning?
 

dc

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8066352#post8066352 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kjbudsberg
My advice is to be patient and allow the cycle to happen with uncured live rock. With 2 months under your belt, you should be nearly there, although your livestock list did catch my eye for danger in a tank that has not finished its primary cycle. Beware, you are probably beyond your stocking limit in a 55.

Pretty much agree with this. Are you starting a new tank? I'd get rid of the damsels, they almost always get mean, and some get big and ugly besides.
 

kjbudsberg

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Ah, sorry about the misunderstanding (I am most of the way through a very large adult beverage). I don't think the additives are worth the price of the packaging. There are a lot of things you don't know about the additives like how long they have been on the shelf, and likewise, how many live bacteria are in the bottle. My best recommendation, as always, is to join the local reef club and ask for 1/2 cup of sand from its members in exchange for a like amound of new sand. Not only do you get more microbial diversity from your new friends -- esentially free -- you get new friends and a powerful resource if you run into trouble.
 

Sk8r

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One of the adages of this hobby is "Nothing good happens fast in a reef tank." Best pursue this expensive business in the safest possible way.
 

BurntOutReefer

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"so there is no need for cycle "
Marketing Hyperbole, unless they come in 2 different bottles containing bacteria that consume ammon, (Nitrite) and Nitrites...Nitrate(sommas)..so actually 3 bottles...forgot ammon...
lets think about it for a second...hmmmm all 3 bacteria in one bottle....IMO....dont think so
 

rkelman

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I started my tank without a cycle.. (not really without a cycle but without a large ammonia / nitrite spike) I was told putting bacteria in was a waste of money. I was told using live sand was a waste of money. I used partially cured live rock I would say. It had alot of dieoff. I used both and my ammonia never spiked. I put fish in after 3 weeks and haven't looked back. Not that I am recommending this to anyone. I understand this may be an isolated case and may never happen for me again. I dissagree that there is "no need for cycle" The cycle happens on some level if you want it to or not. Its chemistry. To say there is no need for a massive cycle would be more accurate I think.
 
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