Nudibranchs No More

the eggs do not carrie the palytoxin. the key is getting something to working the egg population down, not the adults. If eggs are gone there won't be any adults. I read an article that said wrasses "may" eat the eggs. I have 2 six lines and 2 scooter blennies and a manderine. I've only found about 15 nudis since mid december. This is very good with 200 zoo colonies, 150+ zoo frags.
 
well its been several weeks since i found my first nudi,and quickly started doing this process.i can say that there are fewer visible adults.yesterday i did a hand inspection and found five adults and about ten egg sacs scattered over the zoo polyps. i used fine point tweezers and the dip and things are going well.i had a bout with ick so the fish option is not feasable at the moment,however as soon as the tank is ready i'll get several six lines and a mandarin.hopfully that will remedy the situation some in addition to the dip and tweezers.by the way thanks for the post of the egg sac, without it i would have by passed the eggs.
 
today I went to the LFS and asked that a Zoo polyp rock be moved to a different tank to see it under those lights. In that tank was a resident Christmas Wrasse that immediately went to work on the rock, circled it several times, diving and picking intermittently. I came back here checked this post to confirm what I thought I read and then called back to put one on hold.

I am hoping that this one has the same disposition as the one in the display tank (just came in today and will be in quarantine for 2 weeks before release at the LFS)

Wanted to say thanks to Mucho and Zomania and all others for your posts and experiences.

Aaron
 
Thought I'd throw my 2 cents in here. My 55 gal "zoo" tank is only 5 months old. In that time I have found about half a dozen nudies . When the tank was first set up I did find 2 eggs sacks and none since. I have scoured over this tank day and night looking and the last nudi found, full grown, so far was about two weeks ago. I have about a 150 or so of small blue leg hermits (way too many)and half a dozen peppermint shrimp that are constantly going through the colonies. My point here is that I started with nudies (and may still have some) but I havnt seen an egg sack since the tank was set up. Right now I can hear "well your just not seeing them" but I have removed as many zoo rocks as posible several times and gone over every polyp. No egg sacks. I believe the hermits and shrimp are eating any sacks before I can find them. I would think that any tank with a viable population of nudies would be producing eggs and I'm not finding any. Also I havnt dipped since the tank was set up so I would think I should be overrun with nudies if something wasnt eating the eggs. If I'm wrong and I start seeing more of these bastards I'll follow Mucho's observation and get that wrasse, but I believe the ultimate solution is egg predation. I think everybody should keep an open mind and stop slamming or mocking those who stick their necks out and tell us all what worked for them. If no one is willing to try new things AND post it where would we be?
 
Well I didn't have time to read every post in this thread but needed to post this.
I bought a seagrass wrasse about 3 weeks ago, before I read this thread. Today he decided to start attacking my clams. I just took my dragon wrasse out last week for the same reason, very similar fish, both move rocks, eat clams, swim the same. If you guys are really set on getting one of these fish you may want to try a dragon wrasse but they are definitely not reef safe just like these fish.
 
well after a long waiting period i can say without a doubt that this wrasse is not the answer to zoanthid nudis. mine will not even look at the nudis and passes them right over to go after amphipods. when i upgrade the tank he is going back to the lfs. thanx any ways mucho but i think your wrasse is unique.
 
well after keeping an eye on my zoo's i've yet to see any nudis.keeping my fingers crossed for now . once again thanks for the tip it really helped.
a bit on the tidious side ,however its worth the effort when you see the zoo's start to open up again.
 
just read Muncho's journey... can anyone tell me what a nudis is and what they do to zoanthids? my zoos sometimes shrink really small and i lose alot when that happens. is this caused by nudis?
 
Where can I buy a seagrass wrasse, locally - in the bay area, or online?

I will try it. My zoa's are vanishing before my eye.
 
Nudibranchs aka, Nudis, are tiny zoo predators which will often mimic the color of the colony they are destroying by extracting the zooxanthellae from said colony. They are very slow moving and they will slowly run for cover once your lights come on. If you see one, you are sure to have many more which you can't see.

angry.clownfish, there are a host of reasons why your zoos might be shrinking. Can you be a bit more discriptive and give as much background as possible on the issues you are having. Dipping won't hurt them if you are just trying to find out if you have nudis.

clsund, I have never heard of them eating Leathers. Maybe something to look into.

To-Arbitrate, are you sure it's nudis? Have you seen them or have you dipped them yet?

Mucho Reef
 
It's been an uphill battle, but I'm finally winning.
There are less and less of them. Except yesterday I found the largest one I've ever seen under one of my M. caps.
I quickly siphoned it and brushed the eggs off.
I
I've stopped dipping, I was told to remove the colonies from their rocks and just keep the healthy tissue. (Throw out the rock and tissue you cannot separate from the rock.)
Basically make the colony so you can easily spot the nudi's and they can't hide in nooks and crannies.
Been working great for me so far. And I don't stress the colony too bad like they would if I dipped them.
My prized monti's are making a comeback.;)
 
Reef Junkie, you are talking about Montipora eating Nudibranchs. They are totally different from Zooanthid eating Nudis. Glad you are having success though, that's great. Removing all of the zoo colonies from their rocks would be nearly impossible and would cause far more damage than good.

Good luck and I hope you defeat them.

Mucho
 
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