Odontanthias borbonius anthias

nice very nice!
I dunno much about the species.
Assuming they have similar requirements for anthias.
 
i just ordered one also. thanx for the heads up dr. these guys are so cool. they are deep water and tend to prefer cooler temps but ive read a lot of people keeping them in their reefs.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11858898#post11858898 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by achillesheel
i just ordered one also. thanx for the heads up dr. these guys are so cool. they are deep water and tend to prefer cooler temps but ive read a lot of people keeping them in their reefs.
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Anytime man. I been waiting to jump on one of these guys for a while. I bought a small one. Sedar told me they can be a little aggressive but I hope he can handle my Tinkers and mitratus who are a little bossy to newcomers.
 
i picked up a small one also and have a large one on hold until i can decide to put out the cash. are you putting yours in your reef. ive got a little cube going right now that i am going to qt them in and decide later if i want to reef them
 
These fish are deep water anthias and these are first I have seen available in the US in a few months. The last batch didn't do very well and I only know of a couple that are still alive. The ones that did well were kept in dimly lit or dark tanks and at lower temps. around 70-74 degrees. Many died from swim bladder infections due to improper collection.
The good news for all of you is that these fish are coming from Sedar so I assume they are healthy and acclimated.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11859576#post11859576 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by triggerfish1976
These fish are deep water anthias and these are first I have seen available in the US in a few months. The last batch didn't do very well and I only know of a couple that are still alive. The ones that did well were kept in dimly lit or dark tanks and at lower temps. around 70-74 degrees. Many died from swim bladder infections due to improper collection.
The good news for all of you is that these fish are coming from Sedar so I assume they are healthy and acclimated.
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I saw over 30 of them in the past year, almost none had any swim bladder problem.
All had flat worms problems.
IME they are the most sensetive fish to Flat Worms.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11861465#post11861465 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Vili_Shark
I saw over 30 of them in the past year, almost none had any swim bladder problem.
All had flat worms problems.
IME they are the most sensetive fish to Flat Worms.
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Thanks for that info Vili. I saw the ones Alex had on my trip to Thailand and it repeaked my interest in these fish again since he was having great success with keeping them. I didn't imagine that would be available so soon in the US.
 
Trigger,
They were available in LA in 2007 as well.
These days I know of quite a few which are available for sale .
Unlike what many people think, the fish arrives in excellent condition, no problems what so ever with that swim bladder, but then you will start seeing first signs of flat worms.
 
Finally I managed to see some in real life.....Guess where this guy is now?:D

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Villi my friend, what did you use to treat the flatworms with? Only have them a few hrs and this guy is already feeding well but I remember your warnings about flatworms....
 
Li my friend,
I assume those are from Jon.(are they?)
If they are I checked them, they are clean.
But I guess jon should concentrate on the singapore market cause his packing skills are somewhat lousy.

Li, watch that tail.
So far I treated with FW bath, but since they are so small this time Im afraid to do it again, might try Prazi.

I really want to learn more about that flat worm, info I gathered is that they are very coomon with Indonesian exporters and can not complete cycle in the tank, as part of their cycle in bird poop.
Can anybody confirm?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11862126#post11862126 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Vili_Shark
Li my friend,
I assume those are from Jon.(are they?)
If they are I checked them, they are clean.
But I guess jon should concentrate on the singapore market cause his packing skills are somewhat lousy.

Li, watch that tail.
So far I treated with FW bath, but since they are so small this time Im afraid to do it again, might try Prazi.

I really want to learn more about that flat worm, info I gathered is that they are very coomon with Indonesian exporters and can not complete cycle in the tank, as part of their cycle in bird poop.
Can anybody confirm?
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Yes, they are from Jon. Look to be in pretty good condition. He told me this batch is the third shipment in the last few weeks. Apparently his supplier has been sending them in pretty good conditon - no bouyancy problems, eating etc. They are pretty small - about 1 inch SL - but I prefer them this way as they should be more adaptable and ship better.

It is possible about the life cycle of the flatworm. This kind of life cycle is known but whether it is so for this particular species I wouldn't know - you will need an id on the flatworm species. I might try gut loading some brineshrimp and treating them one day...

Thanks for the info.
 
Li my friend,
Jon was right about the 3rd shipment of Borbs that he got.
What he "forgot" to tell you that in the first batch he sent me one fish medium size, upon arrival, when i lift the bag and looked at it upside down to see the fish, left it like this for a couple of minutes when the fish and me are staring at each other, then I could see some worms that fell off this fish at about where the rubber band is, I also saw that the tail fin was damaged.
When I dipped that fish it was "snowing", insane amount of worms.

Jon reply was" I was too busy this week so I didnt inspect the fish before packing".

How many did ya get?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11862646#post11862646 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Vili_Shark
Li my friend,
Jon was right about the 3rd shipment of Borbs that he got.
What he "forgot" to tell you that in the first batch he sent me one fish medium size, upon arrival, when i lift the bag and looked at it upside down to see the fish, left it like this for a couple of minutes when the fish and me are staring at each other, then I could see some worms that fell off this fish at about where the rubber band is, I also saw that the tail fin was damaged.
When I dipped that fish it was "snowing", insane amount of worms.

Jon reply was" I was too busy this week so I didnt inspect the fish before packing".

How many did ya get?
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What type of worms? Same as before? Flatworms? I was told the first shipment was just a single fish, large size (3-4 inch with tail) so maybe this was the one you got?? If it did have worms then I will need to watch these guys carefully and definately consider worming them soon since they are from the same chain of custody as yours. Let me know about those worms....

I got 2 of them. Right now they are having a little tiff - nothing serious, but one will intimidate the other such that it goes into hiding.

For those that have had groups of these guys - what's been your experience with them. Do they behave like typical anthias, or more like sunbursts? (which these kind of remind me of wrt behaviour and shape etc). Will I be looking at heightened aggression till one gets killed?
 
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