DJChesnutRabbit
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Thanks man. He is handsome, and too smart for his own good.
OT: Amazing Golden Retriever
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lifesworksataol
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wow the way he was listening tonight i cant even believe it. i could have sat there watching that for hours. i didnt know dogs could act like that.
DJChesnutRabbit
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We've only been training him for less than a month. Wait till he's 6 months old and doing obedience shows. That will be a sight to behold. He's 15-16 weeks old, so the next 3 months will be critical. My goal is to start showing him in June in the puppy class (6-12 month old.) We hope for him to have at least one championship by his first birthday. 
Here's a great down position pic I took last week. I can't believe he held still long enough for me to get down and take the picture of him.
Here's a great down position pic I took last week. I can't believe he held still long enough for me to get down and take the picture of him.
joshalicialtjt
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12055422#post12055422 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DJChesnutRabbit
Marcye, that's super cool you have a poolside lifeguard. I would chalk that up to the natural instinct of a retriever. Guppy was in the water and Bailey did exactly what he was bread to do, retrieve. It just so happens instead of waterfowl, it was a terrier.
I'm not saying goldens are the dumbest dogs in the world, but try to train/handle a parson russell or any terrier or better yet a herding dog. They're bread to think for themselves, and can be quite a handful to train.
No matter what, I applaud you for putting forth the effort and time you have with your dogs. It's a lot of work.
I don't know about all that herding dog being difficult talk lol. We have an australian shepherd that's just over a year old and going fast in search and rescue training. They just need something to do and they're fine so he does the SR work and visits hospitals and what not so he feels important lol
DJChesnutRabbit
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That's awesome!
I have a real soft spot for Aussie's.
I'd love to meet him some time. Maybe a play date for my Aussie/Chow and my Flat Coat.
You said the key word for herding dogs though, they need something to do or they'll find something to do on their own.
Before we found Jet, our flat coat, I seriously considered getting a show quality Aussie for confirmation and agility work.
And I think a blue merle Aussie is probably one of the most beautiful dogs I've ever seen.
I have a real soft spot for Aussie's.
I'd love to meet him some time. Maybe a play date for my Aussie/Chow and my Flat Coat.
You said the key word for herding dogs though, they need something to do or they'll find something to do on their own.
Before we found Jet, our flat coat, I seriously considered getting a show quality Aussie for confirmation and agility work.
And I think a blue merle Aussie is probably one of the most beautiful dogs I've ever seen.
Me No Nemo
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Hmmm, since reading your post about goldens not being very smart I did some research as I have a hard time believing all the goldens I've been around aren't very bright. But, hey, they're blondes, so it could have been true Fascinating reading...here's some info I've come upon.
The Intelligence of Dogs
According to S. Coren, author of "The Intelligence of Dogs", there are three types of dog intelligence:
Adaptive Intelligence (learning and problem-solving ability). This is specific to the individual animal and is measured by canine IQ tests.
Instinctive Intelligence. This is specific to the individual animal and is measured by canine IQ tests.
Working/Obedience Intelligence. This is breed dependent.
In his book "The Intelligence of Dogs" Stanley Coren ranks 79 dog breeds in order of intelligence. Poodles scored 2nd, Golden Retrievers were 4th and Labrador Retreiver ranked 7th.
Stanley Coren is a neuropsychologist and professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia. Dr. Coren has published articles in medical journals including The New England Journal of Medicine, American Journal of Public Health and Sleep. He has appeared on numerous television programs including Good Morning America, CNN, The Osgood Files and The Today Show. Dr. Coren is a fellow of the American Psychology Association, American Psychology Society and Canadian Psychology Association. He was recently awarded the Killam Memorial Fellowship.
Okay, so Golden's truly aren't the smartest...here's the list that is most commonly agreed to by the "experts" I've read:
1 Border Collie
2 Poodle
3 German Shepherd
4 Golden Retriever
5 Doberman Pinscher
6 Shetland Sheepdog
7 Labrador Retriever
8 Papillon
9 Rottweiler
10 Australian Cattle Dog
Sheesh...beat out by a poodle
Fascinating reading...here's some info I've come upon.The Intelligence of Dogs
According to S. Coren, author of "The Intelligence of Dogs", there are three types of dog intelligence:
Adaptive Intelligence (learning and problem-solving ability). This is specific to the individual animal and is measured by canine IQ tests.
Instinctive Intelligence. This is specific to the individual animal and is measured by canine IQ tests.
Working/Obedience Intelligence. This is breed dependent.
In his book "The Intelligence of Dogs" Stanley Coren ranks 79 dog breeds in order of intelligence. Poodles scored 2nd, Golden Retrievers were 4th and Labrador Retreiver ranked 7th.
Stanley Coren is a neuropsychologist and professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia. Dr. Coren has published articles in medical journals including The New England Journal of Medicine, American Journal of Public Health and Sleep. He has appeared on numerous television programs including Good Morning America, CNN, The Osgood Files and The Today Show. Dr. Coren is a fellow of the American Psychology Association, American Psychology Society and Canadian Psychology Association. He was recently awarded the Killam Memorial Fellowship.
Okay, so Golden's truly aren't the smartest...here's the list that is most commonly agreed to by the "experts" I've read:
1 Border Collie
2 Poodle
3 German Shepherd
4 Golden Retriever
5 Doberman Pinscher
6 Shetland Sheepdog
7 Labrador Retriever
8 Papillon
9 Rottweiler
10 Australian Cattle Dog
Sheesh...beat out by a poodle
Me No Nemo
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It's no surprise though that Guppy didn't rank anywhere near the top..lol. He's a bundle of love with the IQ of peanut
joshalicialtjt
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lol we have a blue merle aussie with marbled eyes (pretty much completely blue except for one tiny brown spot on the top of his right eye.
joshalicialtjt
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I def do not agree with the lists for intelligence ranking imo . . . . . australian shepherds are pretty much border collies without tails. Also they have greyhounds and other hounds lower on the rankings as well which angers me just because the dog doesn't want to jump through hoops doesn't mean that it is not intelligent on its own.
DJChesnutRabbit
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Marcye, I hope no offense was taken and I didn't mean to come off that way. I do like to pick on golden owners, but all in fun. I'll be the first to say they are the #1 breed in the country as far as popularity, I don't know how many years running. They are great dogs and fun to be around and work with.
Until we first fostered Jet, I was adamant about not owning a retriever of any kind. Three days after having Jet at the house, I wanted to keep him. He's just so people oriented and willing to learn it's insane. Plus, it doesn't hurt that his dad has won best in breed at Westminster the last 4 consecutive years.
It's no surprise that no terrier ranks very high. They're too darn stubborn. :lol:
Until we first fostered Jet, I was adamant about not owning a retriever of any kind. Three days after having Jet at the house, I wanted to keep him. He's just so people oriented and willing to learn it's insane. Plus, it doesn't hurt that his dad has won best in breed at Westminster the last 4 consecutive years.
It's no surprise that no terrier ranks very high. They're too darn stubborn. :lol:
DJChesnutRabbit
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joshalicialtjt,
Truly a beautiful dog!!!
Truly a beautiful dog!!!
joshalicialtjt
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ha thanks. Oh and a playdate could be fun but unless one of your pups knows how to operate a chuckit Tommy won't really acknowledge them lmao
DJChesnutRabbit
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LOL
I think the lack of opposable thumbs would keep them from using it. Both do like to play fetch though.
I just ordered some bumpers for Jet and we just got a kong wubba, so we'll have lots of fetch toys.
I think the lack of opposable thumbs would keep them from using it. Both do like to play fetch though.
I just ordered some bumpers for Jet and we just got a kong wubba, so we'll have lots of fetch toys.
joshalicialtjt
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I personally think that herding dogs are the smartest that you can find because they generally work with their handlers but also have to make their own decisions. No other breed is really like that and as far as obedience goes terriers are by far the worst EVER . . . we have a miniature schnauzer so trust me lol. Ya Tommy's toys consist of a few stuffed animals, 2 frisbees, 2 chuckit bounce balls, and about 50 tennis balls lol. After trying everything out those chuckit balls are the best since they float and bounce crazy high . . . he loves them soooo much.
Do any of you go to some of the local parks?
We just went to winter park's dog park again today and it was decent enough. Everytime we go there are always a lot of strange people and dogs though.
Do any of you go to some of the local parks?
We just went to winter park's dog park again today and it was decent enough. Everytime we go there are always a lot of strange people and dogs though.
Me No Nemo
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Lol, no offense taken. I was just surprised to hear that and I always do research on new stuff I hear. Yeah, Guppy likes to sit on feet, lick toes and have his tummy rubbed. His IQ is probably in single digits, but he's got the cutes to make up for it.
I've taken Bailey to the Winter Park Dog park...he loves the water (goes in our pool several times a day year round). But, there've been some gator scares in the past and now I"m scared to take him there as I can't keep him out of the water...he likes to fish.
The Sanford Dog Park is really nice. There's also a nice one behind Target in Casselberry but there's never anyone there. It's small but well kept up. Bailey LOVEs to go and play...although, believe it or not, he really doesn't like to play fetch. My last golden lived for her ball...was neurotic about it. Bailey will fetch once or twice then won't be bothered. How weird is that?
I've taken Bailey to the Winter Park Dog park...he loves the water (goes in our pool several times a day year round). But, there've been some gator scares in the past and now I"m scared to take him there as I can't keep him out of the water...he likes to fish.
The Sanford Dog Park is really nice. There's also a nice one behind Target in Casselberry but there's never anyone there. It's small but well kept up. Bailey LOVEs to go and play...although, believe it or not, he really doesn't like to play fetch. My last golden lived for her ball...was neurotic about it. Bailey will fetch once or twice then won't be bothered. How weird is that?
Me No Nemo
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Bailey "fishing" in Winter Park:
Me No Nemo
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Of course, yorkies make great bulletin boards, right Joey?
Me No Nemo
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BTW< gorgeous dogs all. I love those eyes and that big smile!
joshalicialtjt
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We really like to go to state parks and such more than dog parks just because some of the owners and dogs at the parks can be a little . . . . awkward. There is a park called Riverside Park here in Oviedo that we really like to go to as well as taking them to the Little Big Econ State Forest. Tommy's breeder actually lives right around the corner from the Barr St entrance so we go see them and then all head to the park.
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