OT- Cablevision

[greggnyce]

Political garbage removed

 

[Beaun]

Fox News channel probably has a separate contract.

 

[greggnyce]

Ditto

 

[seldin]

...Well in reality Fox is part of "broadcast basic" (1-13 and a few other random channels) which is $15 a month by itself. One channel out of that is probably worth $1 a month, maybe less....

That's what I got.

I switch services every year, so I get new customer rates. This year, I am going back to Cablevision for Internet and Phone from Verizon. Next year, when rates raise, I will go back to Verizon.

Last year, Verizon offered free 6 months of Internet, this year they don't have a good deal for me.

I am cheap...

 

[DgenR8]

Well in reality Fox is part of "broadcast basic" (1-13 and a few other random channels) which is $15 a month by itself. One channel out of that is probably worth $1 a month, maybe less.

My reality is that the inconvenience is worth $5.00/day for as long as I'm missing those two channels. I will maintain that balance for as long as I'm a customer, and I'll refuse to give it to them when I cancel and go elsewhere. Let them sue me over it.

 

[Beaun]

Found an interesting article that, at face value, shows what is going on between Cablevision and News Corp.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ne...ion-customers-2010-10-16?reflink=MW_news_stmp

Here are some highlights:

News Corp.'s pattern of destructive tactics has become clear. First, they threatened Time Warner Cable customers for weeks; then they pulled regional sports and cable channels off Dish Network; and now they have pulled the plug on Fox 5 and My9 for 3 million Cablevision households. Further, they are now threatening to pull their broadcast stations away from Dish Network's 14 million customers in two weeks. It is clear that News Corp. will pull the plug on any viewer, served by any cable, satellite or phone company, to get the money they want.

Cablevision already pays News Corp. more than $70 million a year for its channels, and News Corp. is demanding more than $150 million a year for the same exact programming. Cablevision has reached agreements with every other major broadcast station in the market - NBC, ABC, CBS and Univision - and offered News Corp. as much or more for Fox 5 as it pays any of those stations. But News Corp. is continuing to demand more for Fox 5 than Cablevision pays all of the other broadcast stations combined.

If this is true, it puts the situation into a new light, at least for me. I realize fox has some huge programing they offer (Football, Baseball playoffs, American Idol, Super Bowl XLV...), but from the article, it looks like they are asking for a huge amount of money.

 

[username in use]

I realize fox has some huge programing they offer (Football, Baseball playoffs, American Idol, Super Bowl XLV...),

I can live without everything on that list:bum:

 

[DgenR8]

Found an interesting article that, at face value, shows what is going on between Cablevision and News Corp.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ne...ion-customers-2010-10-16?reflink=MW_news_stmp

Here are some highlights:




If this is true, it puts the situation into a new light, at least for me. I realize fox has some huge programing they offer (Football, Baseball playoffs, American Idol, Super Bowl XLV...), but from the article, it looks like they are asking for a huge amount of money.

That's Cablevision's side of the argument, and we all know that there are at least two other sides.
I have no doubt that Fox is trying to get more for their programming than Cablevision wants to pay, if that were not the case, I'd have channel 5 on my TV now. I am just not willing to accept that big bad Fox is 100% to blame here, and that poor Pat Dolan is a victim in this. Cablevision has been ripping off it's customers for a very long time. I think the chickens have come home to roost, and Dolan doesn't like the fact that it's going to cut into his bottom line. He knows his service is not up to par with FIOS, and that raising rates isn't an option. This means that what ever he has to pay for Fox comes from his profit margin, and he's sweating it now.
My question is why didn't Cablevision deal with this before the customer had to bend over and lose programming? They knew full well that this was coming down the pike at them, and they can't act all innocent like they did when food/HGTV got yanked. They knew it was coming, and they are putting it on their customers to strong arm Fox into giving up.
If I was Fox (Rupert Murdock, I think) I wouldn't give in to them, either. They have gotten away with murder for a long time, and their tactics are slimy.

 

[weezyfella]

My reality is that the inconvenience is worth $5.00/day for as long as I'm missing those two channels. I will maintain that balance for as long as I'm a customer, and I'll refuse to give it to them when I cancel and go elsewhere. Let them sue me over it.

Have you given Cablevision a call and tried to get credit installed on your account? If they are like Dish, they would at least credit $5 a month for the inconvenience. Dish was giving me $10 credit for 1 year when MSG Network was removed when I called and complained. And they collect 1 month payment in advance, so if you terminate you wouldn't get that refund.