Ozone use
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mr.wilson
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Protein skimmer efficiency is increased by reduction of TOC (total organic carbon - particulate & dissolved) by ozone, not by an increased amount of liquid collected. As you have noticed "water quality is greatly improved". I'm talking about overall performance of the H&S A300 as a filtration device.
If you disconnected the two closed loop fractionator pumps and filled the skimmer body with a bag of carbon, you would also increase the performance of the skimmer as a filtration device
Take a look at this thread about protein skimmer performance benefits & limitations. Protein skimmers can only remove 25% of the TOC in your aquarium.
wooden_reefer
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Isn't foaming in the skimmer promoted by more longer chains of amino acids or some other long molecules?
hey anthony ive got a question. i have a room in my tank that seems to have low pH problem everytime i am in the room. when there are 5 or 6 people in my room the pH drops to 7.7. when nobody is around pH is usually 8.2 other parameters like kH calcium and magnesium are checked weekly and always in the optimum range.
so ive zoomed in to increased carbon dioxide levels in the room causing a low pH. so my question is this. will running ozone in my tank increase the oxygen levels and decrease the carbon dioxide level so that the pH stays constant?
so ive zoomed in to increased carbon dioxide levels in the room causing a low pH. so my question is this. will running ozone in my tank increase the oxygen levels and decrease the carbon dioxide level so that the pH stays constant?
mr.wilson
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Ozone (O3) will not decrease the atmospheric or tank Co2 level. Atmospheric air is comprised mostly of nitrogen gas. Adding an O2 reactor will help a little, but your resources would be best spent venting the room... or handing out gas masks to your guests
Faisal1976us
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Is it important to use air pump if i wont to connect ozone generator to skimmer ?
Yes, you generally need to force the air through the generator. They often do not have easy air flow through them.
jakano
New member
I have a question on this subject. I have yet to be succesful using ozone for a couple of reasons. I have a large Beckett skimmer I was injecting the ozone through a small hole in the air intake. I have a bag of carbon that the skimmers water exits into and I have 3 eheim carbon pads on the top of the skimmers collection cup to collect excess ozone from the air. My problem is that when I run the ozone it somehow makes the ph in my calcium reactor never drop and the ph controller always stays open so it is constantly dumping Co2 into the calcium reactor. I have all of my equipment in a 150 gallon rubermaid sump so they all share the same water. Is there something I need to do to make this not happen? Also it seems that when I am running the ozone I do still smell some in my tiny fishroom even though I have an exhaust fan always running to vent the area. Should I just run the ozone with a timer so it only runs a few times a day? I use an Enaly 200mg an hour unit. The unit is an older one and it actually says 200-300 mg and hour so I'm not exactly sure the amount it produces. My skimmer also has a very decreased amount of skimate production when I use the ozone too. Any help would be appreciated as I feel I could really benefit from the use of ozone.
You can use the ozonator without putting the carbon on the lid of the skimmer and the exit of the discharge?
You "can", but you will be sending ozone out into the room air, and ozone is toxic to people. So I wouldn't do it.
Is there something I need to do to make this not happen?
Must be something else going on. Ozone will not apppreciably impact pH or ph measurement.
What benefit are you looking for from the ozone?
Must be something else going on. Ozone will not apppreciably impact pH or ph measurement.
What benefit are you looking for from the ozone?
jakano
New member
Water clarity is the first priority with the reduction of a cyno outbreak a close second, which it did certainly help. The reactor only acts up when I run the ozone so it has to be a direct result of using it. I have since stopped the ozone since it makes me use so much more CO2 I had to fill my tank up way sooner than needed normally. But I would love to use it again. I will try to set it up on a timer that way the system wont have so much ozone at once maybe that will help. One other question could having my ORP probe and my PH probe right beside each other make the ORP readings not accurate? My ORP readings not using ozone are ataround 400mv and that seems super high. I am using a RKL to monitor both with an SLC-1 module.
mnestroy
Active member
You can use the ozonator without putting the carbon on the lid of the skimmer and the exit of the discharge?
You "can", but you will be sending ozone out into the room air, and ozone is toxic to people. So I wouldn't do it.
What about Air Purifiers that use ozone? You can smell ozone in the air with those products... You can also smell ozone near copy machines.
Water clarity is the first priority with the reduction of a cyno outbreak a close second,
Ozone will not usually help with cyano, but water clarity is the primary one it will succeed with.
What about Air Purifiers that use ozone? You can smell ozone in the air with those products... You can also smell ozone near copy machines.
And it is toxic. You may be able to smell it below acutely toxic levels, but it is a concern that I'd strongly avoid since you have no good way to determine the air concentrations. This has more on the toxicity data in the literature:
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 1: Chemistry and Biochemistry
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-03/rhf/index.php
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 2: Equipment and Safety
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-04/rhf/index.php
Ozone will not usually help with cyano, but water clarity is the primary one it will succeed with.
What about Air Purifiers that use ozone? You can smell ozone in the air with those products... You can also smell ozone near copy machines.
And it is toxic. You may be able to smell it below acutely toxic levels, but it is a concern that I'd strongly avoid since you have no good way to determine the air concentrations. This has more on the toxicity data in the literature:
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 1: Chemistry and Biochemistry
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-03/rhf/index.php
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 2: Equipment and Safety
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-04/rhf/index.php
Randy
I am not familiar with an OTO chlorine
A Pool thing.
It is another test method for Chlorine and Bromine other than the DPD
OTO = OrthoTOlidine = Orthotolidine
We do not see it much in the aquatic world, as it interferes badly with NO3- and gives false readings. It is even a crap test kit for pools It give hues of yellow. A better version of this is for pools, without all the issue, is the Orthotolidine-Arsenite (OTA) . Either is also very toxic and not even allowed in some countries.
I am not familiar with an OTO chlorine
A Pool thing.
It is another test method for Chlorine and Bromine other than the DPD
OTO = OrthoTOlidine = Orthotolidine
We do not see it much in the aquatic world, as it interferes badly with NO3- and gives false readings. It is even a crap test kit for pools
It give hues of yellow. A better version of this is for pools, without all the issue, is the Orthotolidine-Arsenite (OTA) . Either is also very toxic and not even allowed in some countries.
jakano
New member
Welll my thought on the cyno was that the ozone would help break down the organics that are feeding the cyno and therefore help to starve it to death. A three day black out period in my tank pretty much wiped it out for me though, and any other algae I had growing. I have to admit the blackout really does help that and it didnt harm my corals one bit.
asonitez
Floodicus Maximus Flooris
I'm a big fan of the 3 Day blackout. It pretty much kills off a lot of stuff and leaves the tank sparkly. I also continue to use phyto during the blackout for corals and filter feeders because corals that extend their polyps use the phyto to grow. At least that's what I was told.
Ozone can be used with the skimmer without using coal?
It wouldn't be my recommendation to do so, but some folks do.
It wouldn't be my recommendation to do so, but some folks do.
