gdm42001
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Ozone use
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sailfintang
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Is it okay to run ozone from the generator through a 6" carbon filled filter into my sump where the skimmer intake is?
I currently just want to see how the ozone will improve my water while I gather material to construct an efficient ozone reactor like the MTC model.
Thanks
I currently just want to see how the ozone will improve my water while I gather material to construct an efficient ozone reactor like the MTC model.
Thanks
jberd
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OK so I have read most of this thread dating back to 2005 and decided to install an ozonizer 200mg adjustable from ozotech. Here is my problem: I hooked it up yesterday and today found that my carbon is dissolving. My sump,tank, rock, you name it is black. What would cause this type of breakdown? I started low at only 22 mg/hr on a total volume of around 120 gallons. What did I do wrong?
Is it okay to run ozone from the generator through a 6" carbon filled filter into my sump where the skimmer intake is?
Ozone passing over GAC before it gets to the water? Am I understanding correctly?
No, the GAC will break the ozone back down again to O2.
Ozone passing over GAC before it gets to the water? Am I understanding correctly?
No, the GAC will break the ozone back down again to O2.
What did I do wrong?
Did you rinse the GAC?
Separate from the ozone, many brands of GAC have fines that if not rinsed out first, will come out into the tank.
Did you rinse the GAC?
Separate from the ozone, many brands of GAC have fines that if not rinsed out first, will come out into the tank.
sailfintang
Member
Okay I see what you are saying I was basing my temporary setup off the design concept for the MTC Reactor minus the reactor. Just waiting on the parts for the reactor to be made and shipped. Not a problem though I can make some simple modifications till I get the reactor built and have the ozone run properly.
:thumbsup:
Good luck.
Good luck.
Psychographic
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For any who are interested, I converted a Red Sea Berlin Skimmer into an O3 reactor, it's fairly easy to do. As most of the people who buy these skimmers usually move on to a better one, they can be found relatively cheap. I think I paid $25 for mine.
I started with a Coralife reactor and it was nothing but problems, it also took a minimum of 20 minutes to change the airstone. With this one, it's a 1/3 of a turn to twist the top off, pull the airstone out, replace and another 1/3 turn and you are done!
The design of this skimmer for the mod could'nt be much better, it has built in vents for the O3 to bleed out already built into it and is supposedly O3 safe.
Not the best pic and I still need to get more Bio-balls for it, but here it is in action.
I started with a Coralife reactor and it was nothing but problems, it also took a minimum of 20 minutes to change the airstone. With this one, it's a 1/3 of a turn to twist the top off, pull the airstone out, replace and another 1/3 turn and you are done!
The design of this skimmer for the mod could'nt be much better, it has built in vents for the O3 to bleed out already built into it and is supposedly O3 safe.
Not the best pic and I still need to get more Bio-balls for it, but here it is in action.
uhuru
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According to Bulk Reef Supply, ozone can also break down pelletized carbon. It has something to do with the material used to pelletize the carbon.
uhuru
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Thats pretty cool! I am using an Aquamedic 1000 CO2 reactor. Costs $70. No modifications necessary. Here is how I set it up:
Psychographic
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I like that, and no mods required makes it even better. What are the dimensions of it? Do you use an airstone in it, if so, how hard is it to replace it when it clogs?
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Thats pretty cool! I am using an Aquamedic 1000 CO2 reactor. Costs $70. No modifications necessary. Here is how I set it up:
I notice that Red Sea and its retailers really don't advertise the size systems the various ozone generators are designed for. I recently acquired a Red Sea Autozone Plus 50 Ozone Generator and 250cc dryer for a great price from a local reefer.
I am considering setting up the generator in a system similar to the above. I am currently monitoring ORP with my Apex controller. ORP generally runs between 265 and 275 mV.
My question: Is the Red Sea Autozone Plus 50 adequate to raise ORP about 100mV in a 400+ gallon system? If not, should I be looking at the Autozone Plus200?
Voices of experience?
LL
Most well run tanks run well above 262 - 270 mV without ozone, not that many do not run in your range, it depends on how the system is run. Have you checked that meter against a cal std or tried to clean the probe. The Red Sea Autozone Plus 50 is a 50 mg unit. The std set point to start off with a setting of 0.3 mg /gal - 0. 5 mg /gal i.e., 400 x .3 mg / gal or .5 mg / gal = 120 - 200 mg /gal, where you would set the dial to on the unit, for 400 gal net water. Getting ozone to get the ORP up to 100mV is not the issue, it is the tank is over loaded, poor circulation, gas exchange or you have a probe issues.
Can you use the 50 and will it help ? Often very low settings, .1 mg / gal or lower, increase skimming and help clarify water but I have extreme doubts ozone alone will get your tank to + 100mV, as you are asking way to much from such a small unit. Many have tried to get the ORP up 100mV at the std settings of 0.3- 0.5 mg/gal without success.
Can you use the 50 and will it help ? Often very low settings, .1 mg / gal or lower, increase skimming and help clarify water but I have extreme doubts ozone alone will get your tank to + 100mV, as you are asking way to much from such a small unit. Many have tried to get the ORP up 100mV at the std settings of 0.3- 0.5 mg/gal without success.
I would not assume that a 100 mV rise is necessary, or even necessarily desirable. The goal, IMO, is water clarity, not mV readings.
Thanks for the replies, Boomer and Randy.
I am tempted to hook up the smaller unit, just to see what result it gives. I have a huge skimmer, but would weclome any improvement in performance due to small amounts of ozone.
I will continue to study the issue.
LL
I am tempted to hook up the smaller unit, just to see what result it gives. I have a huge skimmer, but would weclome any improvement in performance due to small amounts of ozone.
I will continue to study the issue.
LL
LL
Just so you know. Just because Tank A is at 400 mV does not mean it is a better, healthier or less problematic tank than Tank B at 375 mV. Meaning, one can have no ozone at 390 mV and be a stunning perfect tank and another can be at 425 and have serious issues. These mV levels are just general guides we put down from many years of ozone use. Think of it this. In one day one could jack up ozone so the ORP goes form 300 mV to 425 mV. That does not mean all is great now. The tank ORP has just been jacked up by ozone and your issues are not fixed because you are now at 425 mV
Just so you know. Just because Tank A is at 400 mV does not mean it is a better, healthier or less problematic tank than Tank B at 375 mV. Meaning, one can have no ozone at 390 mV and be a stunning perfect tank and another can be at 425 and have serious issues. These mV levels are just general guides we put down from many years of ozone use. Think of it this. In one day one could jack up ozone so the ORP goes form 300 mV to 425 mV. That does not mean all is great now. The tank ORP has just been jacked up by ozone and your issues are not fixed because you are now at 425 mV
