pappone and BLU Coral method

i used the standard dosage of the amio and it was unopened. Im going to try 1/2 the dosage tomorrow once i know they have recovered.
 
Has anyone used this on a small tank? I would like to try it, but it seems like it would be real easy to overdose my 37.
 
Great info. Thanks! I was thinking about putting egg crate on top of a baking sheet (covered in wax paper of course) and using that to make small cubes of the pappone. I'll use your reduced recipe though.
 
You can use old Formula One trays to make the cubes


Is there a needed amount of light for this to work correctly?



Sorry to bring back an old thread...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9870061#post9870061 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by crab0000
Great info. Thanks! I was thinking about putting egg crate on top of a baking sheet (covered in wax paper of course) and using that to make small cubes of the pappone. I'll use your reduced recipe though.
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Ya I did that with half my batch and the other half was with old formula 1 cubes as said before.
 
Sorry if this has already been answered but people running PO4 remover, have you noticed that your changeing out the media more frequently with the popone feedings? I have only been using for 3 weeks now and am wondering if the algea spikes would cause your media to last 1/2 as long.?
 
I'll try to take some when I'm home in a couple weeks. Although I've only been feeding pappone bi-monthly since thats how often I'm there.
 
I haven't had to increase change out of my phosphate remover any more often then before I started feeding.

What kind of algae spikes are your experiencing??
 
I haven't had to increase change out of my phosphate remover any more often then before I started feeding.

What kind of algae spikes are you experiencing??
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9903639#post9903639 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mano1192
Sorry if this has already been answered but people running PO4 remover, have you noticed that your changeing out the media more frequently with the popone feedings? I have only been using for 3 weeks now and am wondering if the algea spikes would cause your media to last 1/2 as long.?
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This is why I stopped using it....pappone is nothing but a big phosphate bomb. If your media starts to exhaust...next feeding...bang nasty algae. All it did was make algae grow and use up my P04 remover. My tank is much happier without it.

Thats why this thread is so funny.....no one has any growth shots. I just dont see it.
 
i have been waiting for the pics also.i always lost color and had a shift towards brown with any type of sps coral feeding.the growth is good to a certain degree but looking at pictures of my system through many years,my colors were the best with very low nutrients and little to no feeding.i have been following this thread hoping i will see the great results people talk about using this system.
 
I don't use phosphate removing media, and am feeding pappone on multiple systems, and my inorganic phosphate readings haven't varied from 0.00 ppm - 0.024 ppm on Deltec/Merck.

Just because you're feeding pappone doesn't mean that you'll have phosphate problems. You're exports aren't matching your imports....
 
I'd love to post pics of my tank, but being that I am unable to have extra funds for a camera kind of make it impossible. Some things in life are a bit more important.

I completely agree stony_corals. I haven't had any nuisance algae issues before and surely after starting the pappone. What I have experienced is a sweet, increased, growth of the acropora, montipora I keep. I do run phosphate removers but with testing haven't had to increase the switch out 1 single day.
 
I just made up a batch and wanted to pour a bit into the tank, and like an idiot, dropped the cup and ended up getting about 1/4 cup in the tank. Skimmer went nuts but corals seem to be doing ok. I anticipate a ammonia, and nitrate spike but i hope not high enough to kill some corals.

Dont you love it when youre extremely busy ( n my case with finals) and you dream up this great idea for your tank thinking it will take no more than 5 minutes, only to find in your haste that you made a mistake and now will spend the next hour fixing it? Gotta love this hobby :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9906870#post9906870 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SueT
I haven't had to increase change out of my phosphate remover any more often then before I started feeding.

What kind of algae spikes are your experiencing??
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I haven't had a huge increase but I do have some now, and i have since lowerd the amount I was feeding and it seems to be in check. I am not however dosing AA's first, but either way its still too early to post any progress for me, but all looks good so far.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9908451#post9908451 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Serioussnaps
Thats why this thread is so funny.....no one has any growth shots. I just dont see it.
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If your having problems with the pappone it is most likely your own fault. You must be doing something wrong. Do you run a dsb or ssb in your tank? If so this could be the cause. It is highly reccomended that the pappone is used for bare bottom tanks. Pappone is not a phosphate bomb. The method requires superior nutrient export and low stocking levels to prevent any nuisance algae problems. A large skimmer is also a must. This is what will get rid of all the left over stuff from the pappone that could indeed cause algae problems. BTW, I have been running the same rowaphos on my reef for 3 months and still test 0 for phosphates after using the pappone for a little less than a month.

Oh yeah, do you need some growth shots to satisfy you?
The spots circled in red show 4 weeks of growth with pappone on my Orange Montipora Capricornis.
Enjoy!:)

corals013-1.jpg
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9918317#post9918317 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishfanatic06
If your having problems with the pappone it is most likely your own fault. You must be doing something wrong. Do you run a dsb or ssb in your tank? If so this could be the cause. It is highly reccomended that the pappone is used for bare bottom tanks. Pappone is not a phosphate bomb. The method requires superior nutrient export and low stocking levels to prevent any nuisance algae problems. A large skimmer is also a must. This is what will get rid of all the left over stuff from the pappone that could indeed cause algae problems. BTW, I have been running the same rowaphos on my reef for 3 months and still test 0 for phosphates after using the pappone for a little less than a month.

Oh yeah, do you need some growth shots to satisfy you?
The spots circled in red show 4 weeks of growth with pappone on my Orange Montipora Capricornis.
Enjoy!:)
I TOTALLY agree with you here also.No sand bed for sure.Because the bed will act as a huge septic tank over time.A few others things that help also.Is a huge main pump to turn the system over.Or Tunzes to move that water around.I got 2 Tunzes and main pump is running 3,000 gallons an hour. To get the particles move threw out the system.Also I removed my filters bags,when this is added.When bags are put back in place,they really pull and the unused food.In the morning skimmer get's turned on,with filter bags put back in place.I also pull up carbon bag.Because I use Reef Plus AA with vitamins.I don't want the carbon to remove it to fast.I recently made a little Red Snapper fish roe.The eggs have a good valve to feeding.There is one guy here,that mentioned adding a little fish roe also.I just added a little in when the food is added.I just start the roe,and will see how it goes.I also don't have an algae problem.It sounds more like folks have a sand bed.And skimmer isn't up to par.

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