Willster
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Would you be interested in fragging and shipping some of those green star polyps?
If I owned any haha
PAR/proper lighting for carpet anemone
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If I owned any haha
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Welp, as predicted the dart fish became an expensive meal. Not too disappointed though, since I never saw them anyways. Anyone know fish that are usually strong enough to not get caught, or fish that don't wonder too much? If my neon dottyback gets grabbed, I think that's when I'll decide the nem isn't that important ^_^
The nem finished off the gudgeon when it came out to eat :/
The nem finished off the gudgeon when it came out to eat :/
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The anemone itself looks pretty good. I don't really know whether percs are any more likely to associate with a haddon's than any other type of anemone (like a BTA) that is not a natural host. I just know it can take a while for the fish to figure it out.
I would turn up the lights gradually. A healthy anemone should be able to handle the lighting you've got, but you might as well ramp it up a little every few days until it's at full strength.
As for tankmates, in a 37 gallon tank, the chances of your other fish getting eaten are increased simply due to proximity. I lost an orange spotted filefish recently and I'm pretty sure my gig ate it. This is in a 185-gallon tank. I am thinking of moving the gig it to a species tank for just that reason. Haddon's are even more notorious than gigs for eating fish. They've been known to take free-swimmers like angels, tangs, and rabbits as well as gobies and mandarins and other "hoppers." It's kind of a horrible way to die, as you've seen.
I would turn up the lights gradually. A healthy anemone should be able to handle the lighting you've got, but you might as well ramp it up a little every few days until it's at full strength.
As for tankmates, in a 37 gallon tank, the chances of your other fish getting eaten are increased simply due to proximity. I lost an orange spotted filefish recently and I'm pretty sure my gig ate it. This is in a 185-gallon tank. I am thinking of moving the gig it to a species tank for just that reason. Haddon's are even more notorious than gigs for eating fish. They've been known to take free-swimmers like angels, tangs, and rabbits as well as gobies and mandarins and other "hoppers." It's kind of a horrible way to die, as you've seen.
Hi, yes he can take 100% led's. ramp up about 2 t0 3 % a day and he'll be fine.
Haddoni's EAT MORE FISH than all the other anemones combined. It's really not a question of if they will be eaten, but when. Now that being said, the bigger the fish, the less life threating the Stings MAY BE.
Things that usually can contibute to being eaten are, nowhere for the fish to swim, either to small a tank or to crowded due to, To much rock work. Fish that are jumpers, fish that like to chase other fish, foolish fish that like to hangout to close LOL. You, scaring your fish when clean the tank.
Some say, that having clowns in the nem, help to keep other fish away. I have a pr of perc being hosted by my nem. But I was lucky and bought this trio from another member.
I also have a tomini tang and a sixline and 2 other haddonies. That is all the fish this tank will ever have. Tank is 48w x 30d x 20t and has minimal rock work and 5" DSB.
I really believe, that the anemone should have the tank built around them, rather then trying to fit them into a aquascape that is not suited for their type.
You can alway jury rig something for these creatures, but I personally, would rather have a custom enviorment for them.
My ULTIMATE GOAL, to have them spawn and reproduce in MY Tank, their home.
Good luck
Haddoni's EAT MORE FISH than all the other anemones combined. It's really not a question of if they will be eaten, but when. Now that being said, the bigger the fish, the less life threating the Stings MAY BE.
Things that usually can contibute to being eaten are, nowhere for the fish to swim, either to small a tank or to crowded due to, To much rock work. Fish that are jumpers, fish that like to chase other fish, foolish fish that like to hangout to close LOL. You, scaring your fish when clean the tank.
Some say, that having clowns in the nem, help to keep other fish away. I have a pr of perc being hosted by my nem. But I was lucky and bought this trio from another member.
I also have a tomini tang and a sixline and 2 other haddonies. That is all the fish this tank will ever have. Tank is 48w x 30d x 20t and has minimal rock work and 5" DSB.
I really believe, that the anemone should have the tank built around them, rather then trying to fit them into a aquascape that is not suited for their type.
You can alway jury rig something for these creatures, but I personally, would rather have a custom enviorment for them.
My ULTIMATE GOAL, to have them spawn and reproduce in MY Tank, their home.
Good luck
Willster
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Front tank shot
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Tested my water today for the first time since I started about 8 years ago. Parameters are as follows:
Nitrate:0
Ammonia: 0
Alk: 11
Phosphates: undetectable
Calcium: 380ppm
Copper: undetectable
Specific gravity: 1.024
Temp: 80.1
Going in on Friday to get my saddleback clowns and ill start setting up a tank for my perc. My female fell victim to the carpet who I have since named voldemort.
Anyway, will the saddlebacks be territorial enough to help deter other fish from falling victim to the death eater?
Nitrate:0
Ammonia: 0
Alk: 11
Phosphates: undetectable
Calcium: 380ppm
Copper: undetectable
Specific gravity: 1.024
Temp: 80.1
Going in on Friday to get my saddleback clowns and ill start setting up a tank for my perc. My female fell victim to the carpet who I have since named voldemort.
Anyway, will the saddlebacks be territorial enough to help deter other fish from falling victim to the death eater?
It maybe, but turly, each situation is unique. But I think It will definitely help. I think you should bring your alk down a little. Say 8 or 9 and raise your salinity to 1.026 temp looks good. these nems seem to like it a bit on the warm side. But you have to be careful with this, as you do not have much room for temp swings to the high side..
Other fish that might work are fish that like to hang out in the water column.
Remember that while it's not likly for the saddles to be eaten, it can still happen. We are still talking haddoni's here lol
Good luck with your new clowns
Other fish that might work are fish that like to hang out in the water column.
Remember that while it's not likly for the saddles to be eaten, it can still happen. We are still talking haddoni's here lol
Good luck with your new clowns
Willster
Will
It maybe, but turly, each situation is unique. But I think It will definitely help. I think you should bring your alk down a little. Say 8 or 9 and raise your salinity to 1.026 temp looks good. these nems seem to like it a bit on the warm side. But you have to be careful with this, as you do not have much room for temp swings to the high side..
Other fish that might work are fish that like to hang out in the water column.
Remember that while it's not likly for the saddles to be eaten, it can still happen. We are still talking haddoni's here lol
Good luck with your new clowns
I am aware that the saddlebacks can still be eaten, but they also have a higher chance of survival lol and hopefully, they will keep other fish out of their death trap of a home.
Willster
Will
So, weird things are happening. Every morning when I turn the lights on, the nem looks horrible. However around 0930 every morning he is fully expanded and looking great. This normal for these guys?
Taken at 0630
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Will post pics later this morning of him looking perfectly fine
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Will post pics later this morning of him looking perfectly fine
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0730 the mouth is tightened up and it's starting to open again.
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This was him from around 0930 on.
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The tank has been up for 6 months, which I agree isn't old enough for said anemone. However, I took it out of a 10 gallon tank that was very new and had incandescent lighting.
The algae is from a ro/di filter not functioning properly if I had to guess. The algae is fairly new and popped up after my last water change, so the filters and membranes are going to be replaced tomorrow when I run into the city.
Not really sure what you mean by "lack of everything." If you are referring to corals etc, that is a slow process for a full time student. Anyways, I have seen your threads and I am very impressed by what you can do with an anemone.
I would say that this is not a good sign, when it expelles itself like that. No its not normal, usually a sign of some type of infection. Have you been feeding him? If so I would hold off on anymore food for the time being. Also if you were feeding, he may have gotten some bad food.
Did this start happening with your latest water change?, Also do not put the clowns with him until this stop, they will just add to the stress.
Check your water parms again. I don't this this is a lighting issue.
Did this start happening with your latest water change?, Also do not put the clowns with him until this stop, they will just add to the stress.
Check your water parms again. I don't this this is a lighting issue.
Willster
Will
All tank problems have happened after the water change. A test will be ran tomorrow morning at 0830. I'll post results when I get them
OrionN
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I know that the tank you got the anemone from is not suitable for it but your tank also looks brand new to me (from looking at the pictures in this thread)
If you can, get him to a more mature tank. Otherwise you just try to provide it the best you can and hope for the best.
When I wrote "lack of everything" I mean the live on LR. None of the algae and small animals we expect on the LR in a mature tank. It is possible that you got really bad LR (essentially dead rock) and have no seeded LR from some good tank or from the ocean. These live on the rock provide a lot of stability to the water condition to the tank. They process waste, both solid and liquid wast put out by the larger animals.
When the anemone have his mouth open, if you observer that the clowns dig into it, then it is best to remove the clowns. If they don't do this then it likely OK to leave them in there.
He is a beautiful Haddoni. Good luck with him
If you can, get him to a more mature tank. Otherwise you just try to provide it the best you can and hope for the best.
When I wrote "lack of everything" I mean the live on LR. None of the algae and small animals we expect on the LR in a mature tank. It is possible that you got really bad LR (essentially dead rock) and have no seeded LR from some good tank or from the ocean. These live on the rock provide a lot of stability to the water condition to the tank. They process waste, both solid and liquid wast put out by the larger animals.
When the anemone have his mouth open, if you observer that the clowns dig into it, then it is best to remove the clowns. If they don't do this then it likely OK to leave them in there.
He is a beautiful Haddoni. Good luck with him
