Phishy yellow BTA, PICS

[GSMguy]

Dawman jeez they are not dyed

i think phenders right its the lighting/image processing

and yes he has and has had yellow nems that were not dyed

in colorado like diva man said they propogate anemones that are very similar.

and yea looks like BTA are the new Collectors coral.

anybody in colombus seen these nems in person???

 

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10540813#post10540813 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AquaReeferMan
Ashy Larry!!!! Thats great.

thanks

 

[phender]

Dawman,

The problem with only reading, is that in this hobby, most articles and books are simply written based on other articles and books and not actual experience.

Once something is written, it gets passed on over and over without anyone questioning it. There are all kinds of things that I have seen in books and articles over and over again that I know from experience, are wrong. Most articles you see will say that mertens carpets don't have sticky tentacles. I know from keeping them that they certainly do have sticky tentacles. Most articles will also say that anemones live for hundreds of years in the wild. In truth there is really no evidence to support this. The observations that supported this hypothesis are not valid, but it appeared in a well know researcher's book, so it gets passed on without question.

Bright yellow sebae anemones are dyed. The dye that they use is water soluble and fades within a month or so. Most yellow gigantea carpets are bleached. However, yellow is a color that can and does naturally occur in the pigmented areas of some host anemones.

 

[GSMguy]

phil you see the red and green in the anemones as welll. very similar to those colorado BTA?

 

[Dawman]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10542078#post10542078 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by phender
Dawman,

The problem with only reading, is that in this hobby, most articles and books are simply written based on other articles and books and not actual experience.

Once something is written, it gets passed on over and over without anyone questioning it. There are all kinds of things that I have seen in books and articles over and over again that I know from experience, are wrong. Most articles you see will say that mertens carpets don't have sticky tentacles. I know from keeping them that they certainly do have sticky tentacles. Most articles will also say that anemones live for hundreds of years in the wild. In truth there is really no evidence to support this. The observations that supported this hypothesis are not valid, but it appeared in a well know researcher's book, so it gets passed on without question.

Bright yellow sebae anemones are dyed. The dye that they use is water soluble and fades within a month or so. Most yellow gigantea carpets are bleached. However, yellow is a color that can and does naturally occur in the pigmented areas of some host anemones.

Think what you want as I will also . I have had many conversations with people experienced with this and the books were from personal experiences not from someone elses thoughts .

It`s my opinion and belief and some behind a computer sure isn`t going to change my mind .

 

[phender]

GSMGuy,
I am seeing some green in the first one, the pink in the second one may be an artifact of the flash or something else. IMO, they don't like similar to the ones I have seen from Colorado.

Dawson, They have personal experience of not seeing a yellow anemone? You can think what you want, but when you post something as fact, when it is not, you are going to get challenged.

Here you go, now you have seen a yellow anemone. I can't think of any other color to call it.

 

[GSMguy]

dude your not really arguing with a dude who owned a yellow anemone. are you? phil has plenty of experience when i first started posting here i argued with him about something i had no clue about and even made some rude personal comments, i was way off and he knows what he is talking about.

if the nems are still there friday i might go down and inspect them in person. unless someone in columbus can go for me.

 

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10542209#post10542209 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by phender
GSMGuy,
I am seeing some green in the first one, the pink in the second one may be an artifact of the flash or something else. IMO, they don't like similar to the ones I have seen from Colorado.

Dawson, They have personal experience of not seeing a yellow anemone? You can think what you want, but when you post something as fact, when it is not, you are going to get challenged.

Here you go, now you have seen a yellow anemone. I can't think of any other color to call it.

god that thing is pimpin, i am moving in a year when im done with school and i have a few freinds who have gone to San Diego, your anemone pics make me want to join them.

 

[maxxII]

Dawman,
I applaud your determination to stick by your "guns" and not believe everything you read on an internet forum....

However,
as an FYI.......Phender is Phil Henderson. The same Phil Henderson many authors quote when referencing anemones and anemone care. Joyce Wilkerson springs immediately to mind as one such author...

So its not exactly like you're getting 4th hand information from Joe Bob the welder, (no offense to anyone named Joe Bob or to welders...).

Phender's been keeping difficult/delicate anemones longer than most people have been in the hobby.

You can pretty much take what Phender says about anemones as truth.

(Sorry to have publically exposed your secret identity Phender).

Nick

 

[TropTrea]

They may not necessarly be dyed. Dependent upon the light source they are used to the photosynthesis chemicals have the ability to shift to those most effecient for the light source. This can cause some color shifting, saturation or bleaching. Another factor is the lighting used when the photograph was taken. If the light source was strong in some frequencies these frequencies will dominate the picture. Then last but not least is photoediting software, Color intensity can be brought up considerable to the point a pale pink be changed into a bright hot pink, or a yellowish brown can be changed into a shocking yellow.

Dennis

 

[Phishy]

These are not dyed. I personally collected one XL YELLOW BTA in Bali about 4 weeks ago. When I shipped all my items back, the yellow split twice the next day and I had two small clones.
I hope this settles the argument.
Peace!
Serdar
Phishy Business

 

[phender]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10542262#post10542262 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by maxxII
You can pretty much take what Phender says about anemones as truth.

I apprieciate the confidence that you have in what I say, but what I say is just based on my experience and in some cases the experiences of trusted others. The "truth" may be a whole different thing. Just because someone has written an article or has been quoted, doesn't mean they can't be wrong. That's what got us into this discussion in the first place.

It is perfectly OK to have an opinion or to share your experiences, that is what this forum is all about. I have changed my mind about several things based on experiences presented in this forum. However, when you state things as absolute facts, you will have to be ready to back them up.

 

[GSMguy]

thanks serdar,
knowing you had collected them from the reef has to help.

did you keep one clone in hopes to keep producing them or are you selling all of them?

 

[Toddrtrex]

Sure this isn't a bright yellow, but it is still yellow in my eyes. Like I've stated I've had it for 6+ years, and it has been this color the whole time.
(( no adjustment made to the pictures -- the white balance was left on "auto" and the tank has 14K DE bulbs ))
FTS -- in the middle back

I picture when I upset my blue haddoni by moving some rocks, it moved next to my yellow one.

 

[Phishy]

GSMguy,
Yes, keeping one clone for my NEW 450
Serdar

 

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10542651#post10542651 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Phishy
GSMguy,
Yes, keeping one clone for my NEW 450
Serdar

can you do us/me a favor?

take a pic of it in a couple months and post them so we can see what happense to a yellow BTA in a tank with artificial lighting? and because they are cool.

Please.

where in the reef did you find it was it in a field of BTA were there others like it? must have been a really fun trip.

 

[Phishy]

Not a problem..........

If I remember correctly, at 50-70 feet, on the down slope of the reef, hidden between leathers. No other BTAs were close by.

Serdar

 

[mrbncal]

<>Originally posted</a> by Dawman
Yes it is dyed , yellow . There is no yellow anemone in the ocean , at least that nobody has found .

Lighten up. Apparently someone has found one.

 

[DivaMan]

If youd like I can try and get my LFS to e-mail me a pic of one of these. They are generally a khaki color, with hints of dark green and bright red. I have personally seen them split. They are for one of the mother anemones nearly 250-500$ a pop.

 

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10542830#post10542830 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Phishy
Not a problem..........

If I remember correctly, at 50-70 feet, on the down slope of the reef, hidden between leathers. No other BTAs were close by.

Serdar

thanks wow 50-70ft from my experience diving the thing would be a pretty low light nem.

good find serdar.