PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[gstan]

Ok need some help starting a 60g cube mainly going to be fowlr may get a green star polyp and some mushrooms down the road. These are what I would like to stock. This is probably to much but that is why I want to check.
Lemonpeel Angel
Valentini Puffer
Bicolor Dottyback
Ocellaris Clown
Banggai Cardinal x2
saddle back Butterfly
Flame Hawkfish
Picasso Trigger but I heard they don't get along with Cardinals

 

[snorvich]

Ok need some help starting a 60g cube mainly going to be fowlr may get a green star polyp and some mushrooms down the road. These are what I would like to stock. This is probably to much but that is why I want to check.
Lemonpeel Angel
Valentini Puffer
Bicolor Dottyback
Ocellaris Clown
Banggai Cardinal x2
saddle back Butterfly
Flame Hawkfish
Picasso Trigger but I heard they don't get along with Cardinals

Actually, I do not provide commentary on aggressive fish tanks especially small ones. Try the aggressive fish forum for discussion.

 

[jdizine]

:idea::idea::idea::idea:
Wanted: Watchman Goby and Pistol Shrimp
Have: 46g bow front, 306 fluval canister, 37 lbs.LR, 40 lbs. argonite, 36" led single bright (102 white, 6 blue)
1- sebae clown fish
1- super tongan nassarius
1- astrea
1- pom pom xenia, looks dead
On the way: Octopus BH1000, Stunner leds, 1 72-blue led, 1 48-blue/24-magenta led, in-line heater.
Water: PH- 8.3, ammonia- 0, nitrite- 0, nitrate-0
Tank is 9 days old.

 

[gstan]

Actually, I do not provide commentary on aggressive fish tanks especially small ones. Try the aggressive fish forum for discussion.

Thanks what if I just cut the trigger he was just an after thought.

 

[Rando1122]

40B Reef

40B Reef

I didn't follow the rules of this thread...but thoughts on the following that live in my 40B


1- White tailed Trigger
1- B&W Clown
3- Blue Damsels
1- Scooter Blenny
1- Cleaner Shrimp
1- Pinktipped Anemone
12- Assorted snails (Dwarf Ceriths mostly)
3- Crabs (Blue legged hermit, Thin stripped hermit)
1- Feather Duster worm (red)

1- Kenya Tree coral (frag)
1- Candy Cane coral (frag)
1- Green Zoanthid (frag)
1- Green Metallic Star Polyp


Technicals:
-Octopus BH 1000 skimmer
-Two powerheads (one spins to generate random current patterns)
-Marineland Reef capable 36" LED
-40lb LR with 2-3" of sand bed

Calcium- 450ppm
PH- 8.0
Nitrite- 0
Ammonia- 0
Nitrates- less 5ppm

So far no issues. The trigger defends his "bed" in the LR from the Damsels and gets regular cleaning from shrimp.
Damsels couldn't be sexed, all three chase eachother.
The Clown sticks to itself and cruises the upper boarders of the tank.
The Scooter seems very happy and eats well from the tank floor, also buries himself at night directly under the intake of one of the powerheads.

Bought cleaning crew yesterday and Hermits took right to an orange-brown "dusty" growth on the LR. Anemone been in tank for 4days now. Spent first couple days completely shriveled. Yesterday we target fed him some brine shrimp. He was fully inflated for the rest of the day and this morning.

Comments.......PLEASE!

 

[snorvich]

I didn't follow the rules of this thread...but thoughts on the following that live in my 40B


1- White tailed Trigger
1- B&W Clown
3- Blue Damsels
1- Scooter Blenny
1- Cleaner Shrimp
1- Pinktipped Anemone
12- Assorted snails (Dwarf Ceriths mostly)
3- Crabs (Blue legged hermit, Thin stripped hermit)
1- Feather Duster worm (red)

1- Kenya Tree coral (frag)
1- Candy Cane coral (frag)
1- Green Zoanthid (frag)
1- Green Metallic Star Polyp


Technicals:
-Octopus BH 1000 skimmer
-Two powerheads (one spins to generate random current patterns)
-Marineland Reef capable 36" LED
-40lb LR with 2-3" of sand bed

Calcium- 450ppm
PH- 8.0
Nitrite- 0
Ammonia- 0
Nitrates- less 5ppm

So far no issues. The trigger defends his "bed" in the LR from the Damsels and gets regular cleaning from shrimp.
Damsels couldn't be sexed, all three chase eachother.
The Clown sticks to itself and cruises the upper boarders of the tank.
The Scooter seems very happy and eats well from the tank floor, also buries himself at night directly under the intake of one of the powerheads.

Bought cleaning crew yesterday and Hermits took right to an orange-brown "dusty" growth on the LR. Anemone been in tank for 4days now. Spent first couple days completely shriveled. Yesterday we target fed him some brine shrimp. He was fully inflated for the rest of the day and this morning.

Comments.......PLEASE!

Sorry, I thought this was commentary on a preceding post. You have too many fish in this sized tank, and a trigger is not appropriate to this sized tank and will not be compatible with your invertebrates.

 

[snorvich]

Thanks what if I just cut the trigger he was just an after thought.

Valentini Puffer and Bicolor Dottyback are also very aggressive and will limit fish that can be combined with them.

 

[gstan]

Valentini Puffer and Bicolor Dottyback are also very aggressive and will limit fish that can be combined with them.

Ok good to know thanks for the help.

 

[Hzuiel]

Originally Posted by Hzuiel
I have a 20g high, 10g sump divided up into about a 6g refugium, and the other 4g is two compartments for the return pump and intake. I currently don't have a skimmer though I plan to get one. I have a fluval u2 with chemipure elite and purigen jammed in one of the compartments of the sump. When i can get a skimmer it will most likely be an aquaticlife 115, tunze nano doc, or cpr bak-pak2.

1 75w heater in the refugium, 1 100w heater in the sump intake area. Water stays 78.6-78.9. RapidLED heatsink with 4 cool white, 4 royal blue, 2 uv, 2 red, and 2 green. Will be adding 4 more cool white, 4 royal blue, 2 uv, and dimmable driver. Return pump is a mag3, 350gph. Small 150gph pump that circulates the refugium. 100w compact fluorescent over the refugium.

Live rock from an established tank in the display and refugium. Arag-alive fiji pink in display, coarse crushed coral in refugium.

Display livestock:
Coral Banded Shrimp
3 red tip dwarf hermit crabs
1 tiger trochus snail
1 tan colored astrea
1 head hammer coral
1 head torch coral
3 plugs of assorted color zoanthids, totalling about 30 polyps
1 star polyp
1 fluorescent green trumpet or candy cane(i think it's trumpet)
several stalks of pinkish colored xenia

Refugium livestock:
2 red tip dwarf hermits
1 peppermint shrimp(will add another 1 or 2 later)
1 snail of unknown species(round spiral shell)
Assortment of algae from another person's refugium.

I would like to add an occ clown pair, and a 2 spot goby. Also probably 1 more snail in refugium, and 1 more snail in display.

Any thoughts?

If you add a pair of A. occelaris that is pretty much all you will be able to suitably house. In any case your environment is not suitable for a two spot goby even if there were no clownfish.

I haven't made any moves yet. Still undecided. I have a question. Are the pair of clowns more territorial than a single clown would be? If I could have 1 occ clown and 1 goby I might do that instead.

The main reason i want a clown at all is that they seem very interactive. I've had them come investigate my finger at the LFS, because they think they might get fed. Most fish seem to be more prone to hide from you. Am i looking in the wrong place with the clown for that sort of bold behavior? Considering my tank isn't big enough to have many fish, i want fish that will be out to be looked at, rather than hiding in the rocks like a pygmy wrasse.

 

[snorvich]

I haven't made any moves yet. Still undecided. I have a question. Are the pair of clowns more territorial than a single clown would be? If I could have 1 occ clown and 1 goby I might do that instead.

A single clown will become female. Not IF, but WHEN. Depending on species, a female clown (or pair) can vary from aggressive to highly aggressive (e.g. GSM)

The main reason i want a clown at all is that they seem very interactive. I've had them come investigate my finger at the LFS, because they think they might get fed. Most fish seem to be more prone to hide from you. Am i looking in the wrong place with the clown for that sort of bold behavior? Considering my tank isn't big enough to have many fish, i want fish that will be out to be looked at, rather than hiding in the rocks like a pygmy wrasse.

Well . . . bold behavior is a bit of an issue. All of my fish (in multiple tanks) always assume that I am the "god of food" so they come out when they see me. But really bold behavior often comes with an aggressive outlook towards other fish, especially those that occupy the same ecological niche (think tangs, angelfish, etc) Clownfish are not really that outgoing, but they will beg for food as will any fish once conditioned to the fact that you are "god of food".

 

[Hzuiel]

Well . . . bold behavior is a bit of an issue. All of my fish (in multiple tanks) always assume that I am the "god of food" so they come out when they see me. But really bold behavior often comes with an aggressive outlook towards other fish, especially those that occupy the same ecological niche (think tangs, angelfish, etc) Clownfish are not really that outgoing, but they will beg for food as will any fish once conditioned to the fact that you are "god of food".

Hmmm, well I'm leaning towards a Catalina goby. Not sure what else might go well with that. I've seen you say you don't make suggestions so I guess I'll have to ask around and come back when i've got some other ideas to check out for compatibility.

 

[snorvich]

Hmmm, well I'm leaning towards a Catalina goby. Not sure what else might go well with that. I've seen you say you don't make suggestions so I guess I'll have to ask around and come back when i've got some other ideas to check out for compatibility.

Catalina gobies require cool temperatures, cooler than normal in a reef tank. I do not make suggestions for a variety of reasons: our tastes will differ, you need to learn research skills, and our budgets are probably not the same.

 

[Hzuiel]

Catalina gobies require cool temperatures, cooler than normal in a reef tank. I do not make suggestions for a variety of reasons: our tastes will differ, you need to learn research skills, and our budgets are probably not the same.

I wasn't questioning why you don't make suggestions, I understand. Thanks for pointing that out about the catalina goby, i hadn't noticed that in their information sheet on live aquaria. Temperature hadn't occured to me as a consideration for a fish that's supposed to be reef compatible, i assumed it lived in tropical reefs.

 

[stiki21]

Hello, I have a 33g (4'x1'x1'). It currently only has a mix of snails and some scarlet hermits and about 35lbs. of live rock. It is sumpless and I have a reef octo bh90 hob skimmer. Here's my projected stocking:

1 or maybe a pair of ocellaris clowns (not a huge fan but my son really wants)
starry blenny
royal gramma

Thanks!

 

[Greywaczera]

This is great

 

[snorvich]

Hello, I have a 33g (4'x1'x1'). It currently only has a mix of snails and some scarlet hermits and about 35lbs. of live rock. It is sumpless and I have a reef octo bh90 hob skimmer. Here's my projected stocking:

1 or maybe a pair of ocellaris clowns (not a huge fan but my son really wants)
starry blenny
royal gramma

Thanks!

all should be fine. If you do a pair of clowns be sure they are very small.

 

[telijah]

40 gallon breeder, ~10lbs of rock, 1 blue damsel, 1 striped damsel, 1 lonely chromis

OK, so so all but one chromis has died, and I am pretty sure it was due to the striped damsel being a jerk. I am going to my lfs to pick up some rock, which will give me about 40lbs of rock. That said, I'd like to get a pair of ocellaris or percula clowns. Will the extra rock help calm my striped damsel down, or should I go ahead and get rid of the damsels if I want to throw clowns in there? Its a fowlr tank if it matters.

 

[snorvich]

40 gallon breeder, ~10lbs of rock, 1 blue damsel, 1 striped damsel, 1 lonely chromis

OK, so so all but one chromis has died, and I am pretty sure it was due to the striped damsel being a jerk. I am going to my lfs to pick up some rock, which will give me about 40lbs of rock. That said, I'd like to get a pair of ocellaris or percula clowns. Will the extra rock help calm my striped damsel down, or should I go ahead and get rid of the damsels if I want to throw clowns in there? Its a fowlr tank if it matters.

Chromis, especially in small tanks will reduce their number to one. That being said, damsels are aggressive and no additional amount of rock will change that.

 

[telijah]

Chromis, especially in small tanks will reduce their number to one. That being said, damsels are aggressive and no additional amount of rock will change that.

That makes my decision easy. I already got the rock because, well... more rock is better aesthetically in my opinion. Gonna bring those guys back to my lfs and get those clowns. Thanks!

 

[snorvich]

That makes my decision easy. I already got the rock because, well... more rock is better aesthetically in my opinion. Gonna bring those guys back to my lfs and get those clowns. Thanks!

Always a pleasure. Minimalist aquascaping can also be interesting.