PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[snorvich]

450G 10' Fowlr . Tank is not setup yet. Here is the list of fish I would like to have in the future if possible. Starting as the list goes from Lookdowns to triggers.
3 Lookdowns
Mappa Puffer
Golden Puffer
Porcupine
Emperor Angel Juv.
Naso Tang , Blue Tang Medium-large
Picasso trigger Sm
Clown Trigger Sm

Unfortunately, I do not provide analysis or commentary on aggressive fish tanks. However a clown trigger is likely to be a problem with other fish in the tank. Excellent in a tank by itself, however.

 

[snorvich]

Hi Steve,

This is a new stocking list from the one I posted several weeks ago.
Thanks again for the time and attention that you put into these endless posts. This is so very helpful. Your service and expertise are appreciated.

Steve


Tank info: 75g DT (4 mths old) 120 lbs LR, 100 lbs LS, 20g sump/refuge

Goal: beginner community reef tank with beginner polyps, shrooms and LPS. Feeding plan is currently 1x /day.

Current residents
Fish
2 Percula Clownfish (Amphiprion Percula) "“currently 1.5" each, intend to split the pair before they get too much larger

why? a female, once differentiated will be almost as aggressive as a single as she would be in a pair

CUC
3 Mexican Turbo Snail (Turbo fluctuosa)
3 Stomatella Snail (Stomatella varia) "“hitchhiked in on the LR but like them and want to keep intact
3 Nassarius Snail (Nassarius sp.) "“will add 5-7 more

1 Fighting Conch (Strombus sp.) "“to be added

Proposed stocking list more or less in order:

1 White Banded Possum Wrasse (Wetmorella albofasciata) "“instead of a Halicoeres melenarus originally intended

Improvement

1 Black Axil Chromis (Chromis atripectoralis)
1 Hi Fin Red Banded Goby (Stonogobiops nematodes) Paired w/ (Alpheus randalli)
1 Yellow Wrasse (Halichoeres chrysus)
2 Neon Blue Gobies - Tank-Bred (Elacatinus oceanops) "“instead of 2 skunk cleaner shrimp originally intended well, neither will be parasite preventive, gobies can only exist as a male/female pair if more than one

Either one of the following MFF trios "“not sure which would group would be the easier going and easier to maintain. Pls advise, thx!
3 McCosker's Flasher Wrasses (Paracheilinus mccoskeri)

easier, and more interesting but needs a tightly covered tank

3 Lubbocks Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus lubbocki)

1 Two Spot Bristletooth Tang (Ctenochaetus binotatus)

all are fine with notations

 

[LightForce]

Unfortunately, I do not provide analysis or commentary on aggressive fish tanks. However a clown trigger is likely to be a problem with other fish in the tank. Excellent in a tank by itself, however.

Ok I`ll ask at the aggressive fish section.

 

[rogermccray]

I am contemplating getting a small tank, 20L and running it at a cooler temp (not sure what temp exactly but in the 60s somewhere).

What I wanted to know was if I could keep more than one catalina goby in a tank that size, maybe two or three?

Just curious if it would be something I would want to think about doing or if it is a pipe dream for me.

Thanks, I appreciate your time on this.

 

[Wozzo]

all are fine with notations

Thank you for your helpful advice and explanations.

My concern about the pair of clowns together is that they will want to exclusively occupy a large percentage of the 75g tank and not allow any of the the other fish to enter their 'space'. Most of the behavioral information on the web seems to be devoted to hosting and breeding and very little on interaction with other species. I'm just not sure of what to expect and how aggressively they will patrol their territory.
Could you comment further -thx!

Steve

 

[snorvich]

I am contemplating getting a small tank, 20L and running it at a cooler temp (not sure what temp exactly but in the 60s somewhere).

What I wanted to know was if I could keep more than one catalina goby in a tank that size, maybe two or three?

Just curious if it would be something I would want to think about doing or if it is a pipe dream for me.

Thanks, I appreciate your time on this.

It is doable but remember these fish are collected in the Pacific around California so you would ideally need to replicate those temperatures.

 

[rogermccray]

It is doable but remember these fish are collected in the Pacific around California so you would ideally need to replicate those temperatures.

Cool, I was planning on using a chiller/dorm fridge (running hose through the fridge) to get the temps down to where they need to be.

Thanks.

 

[snorvich]

Thank you for your helpful advice and explanations.

My concern about the pair of clowns together is that they will want to exclusively occupy a large percentage of the 75g tank and not allow any of the the other fish to enter their 'space'. Most of the behavioral information on the web seems to be devoted to hosting and breeding and very little on interaction with other species. I'm just not sure of what to expect and how aggressively they will patrol their territory.
Could you comment further -thx!

Steve

There are certain key milestones in the life of clownfish. The first is sexual differentiation which is characterized by the perspective male "submitting" to the female. You will see a submission "dance". Occasionally, the new female will kill the male during this process but this is rare and usually only occurs if a secondary juvenile is available. The next stage is bonding and it is at this point that other juveniles or other clownfish are killed or harassed to the point of jumping. At this point the circle of aggressive behavior will widen and depending on species require 25 to 50 gallons of tank space. Amphiprion ocellaris and A. percula are the least aggressive whereas "redder species" will want to control more space. This is the "downside" of sexually mature clownfish that most people do not realize until they experience it.

 

[snorvich]

Cool, I was planning on using a chiller/dorm fridge (running hose through the fridge) to get the temps down to where they need to be.

Thanks.

My recollection (I am old and have forgotten more than I know) is 69-72F but check on it elsewhere since I do not keep temperate tanks.

 

[sarahkho]

Thank you very much for the time and insight into the fish and coral list I I posted.

 

[snorvich]

Thank you very much for the time and insight into the fish and coral list I I posted.

Always a pleasure, check back with any questions or concerns.

 

[rogermccray]

My recollection (I am old and have forgotten more than I know) is 69-72F but check on it elsewhere since I do not keep temperate tanks.

I would definitely look into it before going ahead and doing it. Thanks for the help it is greatly appreciated.

 

[theresearcher]

Here is my idea:
Tank:125gl.
sump w/ refugium
Fish:Harlequin Tuskfish
Blue Jaw Trigger
Zebra Dwarf Lionfish
Copperband Butterfly
Bartlett's Anthias
One Spot Foxface
Blue Tang
Yellow Tang
Invert:Fighting Conch
Turbo Snail
Black Longspine Urchin
Arrow Crab?
Coral:Assorted Soft, SPS, LPS

 

[snorvich]

Here is my idea:
Tank:125gl.
sump w/ refugium
Fish:Harlequin Tuskfish
Blue Jaw Trigger
Zebra Dwarf Lionfish
Copperband Butterfly
Bartlett's Anthias
One Spot Foxface
Blue Tang
Yellow Tang
Invert:Fighting Conch
Turbo Snail
Black Longspine Urchin
Arrow Crab?
Coral:Assorted Soft, SPS, LPS

Unfortunately, I do not provide analysis of aggressive fish tanks. Please try the aggressive fish forum.

 

[rogermccray]

It is doable but remember these fish are collected in the Pacific around California so you would ideally need to replicate those temperatures.

Yesterday I asked you about catalina gobies and I was curious if you think that a blue spot jawfish would be okay if i kept the water temp in the high 60s.

 

[snorvich]

Yesterday I asked you about catalina gobies and I was curious if you think that a blue spot jawfish would be okay if i kept the water temp in the high 60s.

Yes, 69-72. But they need significant infrastructure in the manner of sand and empty shells. I would go a bit larger tank size if combining the two. Perhaps 30 gallons.

 

[rogermccray]

Yes, 69-72. But they need significant infrastructure in the manner of sand and empty shells. I would go a bit larger tank size if combining the two. Perhaps 30 gallons.

Cool, I was thinking of upping to a 40 gallon breeder and obviously doing a bunch of research on the jawfish before doing any of this.

Thanks again.

 

[abev121]

Possible green banded goby

Possible green banded goby

Hi I have a 30g tank with a pair of clowns and a yellow watchman goby.
I was hoping to add a green banded goby and possibly a firefish? or a possible kaudern's cardinal .

Thanks for your help.

 

[Wozzo]

There are certain key milestones in the life of clownfish. The first is sexual differentiation which is characterized by the perspective male "submitting" to the female. You will see a submission "dance". Occasionally, the new female will kill the male during this process but this is rare and usually only occurs if a secondary juvenile is available. The next stage is bonding and it is at this point that other juveniles or other clownfish are killed or harassed to the point of jumping. At this point the circle of aggressive behavior will widen and depending on species require 25 to 50 gallons of tank space. Amphiprion ocellaris and A. percula are the least aggressive whereas "redder species" will want to control more space. This is the "downside" of sexually mature clownfish that most people do not realize until they experience it.

Much appreciation the explanation, as well as for commenting on the rest of my stock list. Thanks again for giving of your time and experience to the hobby.

 

[snorvich]

Hi I have a 30g tank with a pair of clowns and a yellow watchman goby.
I was hoping to add a green banded goby and possibly a firefish? or a possible kaudern's cardinal .

Thanks for your help.

It depends on age and species of clownfish. The green banded goby should be fine, the firefish may be intimidated by the clownfish. A tank raised kaudern's cardinal fish should be fine.