Pohl's Xtra ?
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sahin
Ultimate Reefer
Bugger; I honestly see the point you are making, but the Zeovt system DOES work. Countless Zeo tanks are a testament to this. I accept that the basic parts of Zeovit DOES work.
However, I am not so sure about the other products in the Zeo line. But that goes for so many other products out there in this hobby.
I too have been in the hobby for a decent amount of time and have spent a large part of my free time ove the past 10 years on this forum and the Zeo forum.
Very much like you, I know that excellent results can be obtained without Zeovit or any other equivalent zeolite system.
However, products that do help, have a place in the hobby. Even if those products are not mainstream.
With that said, can we please get the thread back on track. My corals from a previous setup, we're very pale and lacked colour, Coral Vitaliser from Zeovit did help me.
So, what is the deal with Pohls Xtra? Anyone else have any input on this product?
However, I am not so sure about the other products in the Zeo line. But that goes for so many other products out there in this hobby.
I too have been in the hobby for a decent amount of time and have spent a large part of my free time ove the past 10 years on this forum and the Zeo forum.
Very much like you, I know that excellent results can be obtained without Zeovit or any other equivalent zeolite system.
However, products that do help, have a place in the hobby. Even if those products are not mainstream.
With that said, can we please get the thread back on track. My corals from a previous setup, we're very pale and lacked colour, Coral Vitaliser from Zeovit did help me.
So, what is the deal with Pohls Xtra? Anyone else have any input on this product?
trinity1012
sps addict
i will take randys opinion over yours anyday."as im sure we all would" why dont you just keep your useless comments to your self and read a book.
Allmost
New member
LOLOL
first and second link, are about FLATWORM EXIT, its a product made by Salifert
they are not even for AEFW ... 3rd one is a person having Issues, not being able to manage nutritions in his system
that's just too funny. plus the fact that you say carbon dosing doesnt work, and its artificial, and at the same time, you use biopellets on your system ! HMMMM!
lolol haha
anyways, Zeovit, allows me to do less maintenance on my reef system, no fuge, small and simple sump, which is useful in my small condo. it allows me to keep much more fish than usuall, and allows me to feed them 3 times a day frozen food, without any sort of algae.
as Im sure most of SPS keepers agree, carbon dosing is the way to go with SPS ... beng vodka, VSV, vinegar, sugar, bio degradable pellets, NeoZeo, ultralith, or .... Zeovit was one of the first to come out with this, Pappone from Italy was basically the first to try carbon dosing .... in my opinion, Zeovit is the only one of the bunch, that is a complete system. takes care of all components. and I quite enjoy what it can do for me. my softies tank, and azoox tank are also filtered by Zeovit.
Xtra is one of my fav additives, when corals are stressed or anything, even if due to my mistake alk rises, a cap full of Xtra solves that for ME. its my problem solver, with Sponge power.
again, I enjoy what it does to my reef, and I use it. it was not easy to understand the methology behind it at first, so I help others who have questions about it. it is for sure not the only way to go.
I really hope you stop the personal insults, as this is not about me and you, its about a product I use and see it work
in fact, resorting to personal insults shows that you feeling less confident and are trying really hard to put me down, thinking that would gain you anything. I will just assume you had a bad day and didnt mean to make it personal.Lets get back on track now, .... anyone else using Xtra ?
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jasimek
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I have learned basically nothing from this thread due to the constant insults going back and forth. I think the mods need to get involved and either put a stop to those who are incessantly name calling and not providing much of substance on this thread or close the thread altogether. I feel dumber from reading all this
ridetheducati
20 and Over Club
Are you not entertained!
I would like to see a pic of Bugger's tank. In fact, here is a sneak peek of my accomplishments.
BTW, Xtra and CV are the real deal. If you want to "experiment" with Zeo products, start with Xtra and CV, you will be pleasantly surprised.
I would like to see a pic of Bugger's tank. In fact, here is a sneak peek of my accomplishments.
BTW, Xtra and CV are the real deal. If you want to "experiment" with Zeo products, start with Xtra and CV, you will be pleasantly surprised.
trinity1012
sps addict
thats sweet. awesome pic!!!
Pederreefnerd
New member
Are you not entertained!
I would like to see a pic of Bugger's tank. In fact, here is a sneak peek of my accomplishments.
BTW, Xtra and CV are the real deal. If you want to "experiment" with Zeo products, start with Xtra and CV, you will be pleasantly surprised.
Very nice, and lets continue in a positive manner with this topic :thumbsup:
I've seen some amazing tanks that run zeo and some that don't! I can think of two here at home in SE michigan as examples. I'm running a partial zeo system in my new 200g reef. I've been dosing zeobak, zeostart and pohls extra. I've decided to pass on the zeolites due to the space and expense of a reactor. Also, I've read zeolite can cause potassium issues and I don't wanna have to worry about another element. I feel relatively successful using the partial zeovit system and honestly it's not that expensive if used sparingly.
ridetheducati
20 and Over Club
Xtra, CV and Sponge Power. I could switch over completely to the full system if I felt the need. Zeo is like other carbon-based systems, once ULNS conditions are met, you must FEED the corals. For reference, I use four drops of each food every other day.
ridetheducati
20 and Over Club
Potassium issues do not plaque a lot of zeo users. Use a good salt that has near NSW potassium levels (380-400mg).
Allmost
New member
Lets assume net water is 100g.
4 drops of CV, twice a week.
4 ml of Xtra, twice a week.
basically 1 drop and 1 ml per 25 Gallon NET water.
if you notice any film algae, stop dosage till disappeared, then start again with half dose.
time of dosing doesnt matter, I dose in morning before leaving to work though.
[watch KH and CA++ consumption]
Acronic
The Fifth Master
I have been using Xtra, CV and SP for half a year now and love it! Sponge power grows sponges on the rocks very well. CV gets the polyps waving Xtra is great, best color additive I have ever used. Allmost, I know exactly what you mean about the "3D glow" some corals give off.
I dose CV twice a week 8 drops
Xtra every day 8 drops
SP once or twice a week 5 drops
Takes me about one femtosecond to dose and the results are worth that femtosecond.
Also I sould mention I run BP as my carbon source.
Xtra is great, best color additive I have ever used. Allmost, I know exactly what you mean about the "3D glow" some corals give off. I dose CV twice a week 8 drops
Xtra every day 8 drops
SP once or twice a week 5 drops
Takes me about one femtosecond to dose and the results are worth that femtosecond.
Also I sould mention I run BP as my carbon source.
Moser
Active member
That's harsh, considering there is a forum full of amazing tanks using that system. Just because they refuse to give away their recipes, does not by any means make them snake oil. The science behind it obviously works because there are so many beautiful tanks using it. There are also many tanks mis-using it or reefers thinking they can get away with shortcuts. Clearly, also not the case!. The other thing is that there are now so many variations of the original system that all work, that clearly there is some working science to back it all up. We just don't know what that is!.
I have to say, every time a tank turns up with amazing coloration, the first question asked is do you run Zeo. There has to be something in it for that question to always be asked?!!.
If you don't believe in it, that's fine, but if you want to bash it, show us your tank first....
Thanks
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