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It dosent matter if you want to talk about zeovit go sign up to the zeovit website and start there it right here http://www.zeovit.com/modules/Jig/index.php
reef central forums experts have already talked about the issue and disproved the claims made by zeovit. And every tank of the month before 2006 proves that you dont need it and you get the same colors
 
Define "the same colors"

I take it Boomer is your cult leader...

True or false, does anybody care?
 
show the proof then buddy take two tanks with multiply frags one zeovit one regular and show the difference. Zeovit wont even do this because nothing will change.
Boomer is a scientist what are your credentials
Is Thomas phol your cult leader I assume he is your leader
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It dosent matter if you want to talk about zeovit go sign up to the zeovit website and start there it right here http://www.zeovit.com/modules/Jig/index.php
reef central forums experts have already talked about the issue and disproved the claims made by zeovit. And every tank of the month before 2006 proves that you dont need it and you get the same colors

Well, at least you are backtracking a little!.

You said "It is snake oil". The suggestion from you is that their claims are fraudulent and their theory has been disproved. That is a lie!!.

You claim to get the same results without Zeo. That is false.

You paraphrase two respected chemists, not sure from where, but they have very little working knowledge of the system and in those terms are not qualified to say how well it does or doesn't work. At best, they an only Speculate, in the face of hundreds of successful and differently coloured SPS tanks.

Indeed, I believe Randy does run a carbon driven system and loves it?!..
We would all love to know the ingredients, but that's no reason to assume it doesn't work. In fact, it's a sill reason to slate the system!.


Traditional methods give you very nice, but distinctly different coral colours!.

Pellets and other methods can match the results, but those methods are asked on similar principles. Some may still argue that Zeo an give you even more subtle hues than carbon dosing alone.

Clearly, Pre zeo methodologies cant give you the same colours, yet they do give you just as impressive coral displays, if not more so.

However, as witnessed on many many threads, you can spot a zeo tank a mile off, which suggests there has to be something to it.

To write it off as snake oil is plain ignorant of the facts.

Mo
PS show us your tank....
PPS I don't run zeo myself, but I have in the past. I use a few of their bottles though and they work even with my algae driven system!!.
 
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Im not the one set out to prove something bahd. I already proved to myself that it works and thats all that matters.

Why dont you go start a thread about how much u hate people that use zeo? Then you can let real hobbyists experiment with products of our choosing and have civil discourse about our conclusions.

We all heard you, now keep quiet and raise your hand if you wish to go to the bathroom.
 
Im not the one set out to prove something bahd. I already proved to myself that it works and thats all that matters.

Why dont you go start a thread about how much u hate people that use zeo? Then you can let real hobbyists experiment with products of our choosing and have civil discourse about our conclusions.

We all heard you, now keep quiet and raise your hand if you wish to go to the bathroom.

Yes it seems he hates zeo people more then the product. I agree he needs to start a thread about why he's jealous of all the success zeovit users get.
 
the jan willem tank is AMAZING! I started feeding my tank more these past few days with a combo fish goo. Im going to see what develops from this change and then possibly attempt Spur if growth doesn't increase. thanks for the info.

as for zeo method...Ive seen in person a Zeo tank and the change that it had from no Zeo to full Zeo. The color was amazing. The money and dedication was not appealing to me. I first hand saw a wonderful tank go to an extraordinary tank. The system works IMO, not doubting Thomas is going to waiver my faith.
 
Be careful with Spur2!. Most do NOT manage the results Jan gets with it!. He has used Zeo for many years..... It's the very top stage of Zeovit and is the strongest of their snake oils :lolspin:.

Start very very low doses and slowly build up. No harm if it shows no effect for a few doses, but can wipe out your corals if you do overdo it!.

Mo
 
Be careful with Spur2!. Most do NOT manage the results Jan gets with it!. He has used Zeo for many years..... It's the very top stage of Zeovit and is the strongest of their snake oils :lolspin:.

Start very very low doses and slowly build up. No harm if it shows no effect for a few doses, but can wipe out your corals if you do overdo it!.

Mo

To add, S2 may not affect change in all corals. Some corals may change drastically and others none at all.
 
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