Power head question Vortech vs Gyre

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I going back and forth. The gyre appears to provide a more uniform flow but hearing that they are more difficult to clean has me looking at vortex.


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For general maintenance I would say it is a wash. I clean all pumps in both a peroxide bath to clear up algae and then they go in for a vinegar bath.

I would imagine it would be rare they would have to be taken apart BUT the gyre is more difficult there to do so.
 
Deepreef, you never said what you want to keep in the tank. Livestock will dictate pump and flow requirements. A softy tank would need way less flow than a LPSdominated tank, than an SPS dominated tank. Say you are setting up a SPS dominated tank starting with frags, then any of your options you listed would work and be way more than enough right now on a young tank 5ft long. However, if everything goes well and your SPS frags grow into full size colonies in 2+ yrs, that's where your question about enough flow will warrant more consideration. As the corals grow, especially stag type branching growth, the corals themselves severely limit the flow and that is why you hear people saying they need more flow. I started my current 90g peninsula 2 yrs ago and I put 2 WAV pumps in. If I turned them up anything over about 25% I would create a major sandstorm. Fast forward 2 yrs and my tank is nearing maturity in terms of SPS coral growth. I have to prune my SPS corals or they will touch the glass or magnet cleaner in many places and almost all corals are full grown colonies. Now I still have my same 2 WAV pumps but now even at 100% I can no longer create the sandstorm. I have them set at 80% now for daily flow and I'm thinking about adding more flow.

So in my opinion for you setting up a new tank, get what gives you a nice base flow and realize that as the tank grows you will need your pumps capabilities to grow with it. Also keep in mind that there certainly can be too much flow initially. As my tank has grown, I've increased the flow but the SPS colonies near the pumps actually see tissue death crated by too much flow near the jet of the pump. So make sure whatever you buy today can be turned down to the needs of today but can also be increased for your future needs if they increase. I also think multiple smaller pumps is better than 1 big pump because you can direct them and control the output so much better.

Also thought I would mention I have a 2nd 46 gal bowfront tank and I put 2 MP40s on that tank. I know the ecotech website would recommend 2 mp10s for my setup and that would work initially, rather I bought for the long term and I have the 2 MP40s turned way down right now and that works fine. I also now as the flow needs increase the 2 MP40s on a 46 gal tank will be plenty as my flow needs increase.
 
cons: CLEANING. large footprint in tank and since newer on market questions about reliability longer term.

That right there is why I got rid of my Gyre. I bought it when it first came out. It was a pain to take it apart to clean it without risking damage or getting it back together correctly. Nice flow, but not consistent enough. My vortechs provide pretty consistant flow and don't clog up as easy.
 
Bice, I plan to do as you starting with softies and as the tank stabilizes possibly move to sps


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If you want proven reliability with the ultimate control then Ecotech is what you want. Their customer service is top notch also. I have 2 MP60s and a L1 (which I wouldn't recommend)
 
I see the title state's Vortech vs. Gyre but theres other options as well. If your looking for power, reliability and control then a couple of tunzes may be it.

At the same time though i would shy away from a pair of mp40qd's.
 
The mp's are notorious for having the shafts rust and crash tanks too... So if you decide to run them make sure to inspect the impeller shafts regularly.
 
The mp's are notorious for having the shafts rust and crash tanks too... So if you decide to run them make sure to inspect the impeller shafts regularly.



That is the first I heard of that rusting issue


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The mp's are notorious for having the shafts rust and crash tanks too... So if you decide to run them make sure to inspect the impeller shafts regularly.

Is this a quiet drive issue? I've never seen or even heard about rusting shafts in vortechs. Will say that there are occasional issues with dry or wet sides which require service but ecotech is good at very good at servicing their pumps.
 
Power head question Vortech vs Gyre

Even if a stainless steel shaft rust, it won't crash a tank. There must be some other reasons. I too never heard of this problem.


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Can someone detail whats so hard to clean about Gyre? I've only used Tunzes and Jebaos, which both could be cleaned with either toothbrushes or a quick vinegar soak. I want Guess so would like to understand.
 
I use Vortech Mp10s on my 60 gal cube but xf250 gyre on my 220 tanks. Its 6 ft long and I felt the gyre was better suited for the length than the MP40s. Plus I would have needed 4 of them to get the same flow pattern. So money became a consideration too.
 
For me, getting two power cords out of the water was the selling point. I have 2 MP40's on a 180G mixed reef and they work perfect. I actual bought a gyre for the middle/back but preferred just the 2 mp40's. I keep my LPS between 2 rock piles on the bottom and the flow was too much with the gyre.
 
The mp's are notorious for having the shafts rust and crash tanks too... So if you decide to run them make sure to inspect the impeller shafts regularly.

I have had mine for years and no rusting... I had a older MP60 that had a rusted shaft but that didn't stop me from using it and it made no difference to my livestock
 
I have never had ecotech's. I Had tunze years ago. I have a gyre 150 that on its lowest setting is way too powerful for my 45 gal cube. I got it pretty cheap so it was worth a shot. I am selling it if anyone wants to give it a try. At 30% it will blow the water out of my tank. At 10% it moves all of my sand to one side of my tank. I cant even imagine how strong the 250 is.
 
I see the title state's Vortech vs. Gyre but theres other options as well. If your looking for power, reliability and control then a couple of tunzes may be it.

At the same time though i would shy away from a pair of mp40qd's.

Edit - wouldn't shy away from.
 
The mp's are notorious for having the shafts rust and crash tanks too... So if you decide to run them make sure to inspect the impeller shafts regularly.
Is this one of the same Russian trolls that screwed with the election? Lol. Get out of here with this garbage.

Gyre to save money, Vortechs for the best. It's as simple as that.

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