Prodibio
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Bebo77
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its funny i use prodibio for a little more than 2 months and it could not get rid of my algea problem. So i stopped using the product. I have been using Zeovit for 3 months and i have no algea at all any more. I have not done anything different with the tank, i just started zeo. I think prodibio is really a hit and miss product, it works for some but not all. JMO
marilynrn711
Premium Member
I had an outbreak of cyano once in my old 55 g tank several years ago and dosed chemi clean. In that tank, I only had softies and
Melev, when you dosed the chem clean did you put in an air stone or something to increase the O2.
Melev, when you dosed the chem clean did you put in an air stone or something to increase the O2.
marilynrn711
Premium Member
I cut off part of my post above.
I had softies and fish in the 55 g when I dosed the chem clean. With that tank, it got rid of the cyano and never returned,
Now I have sps, zoos and clams and am worried about dosing the chem clean. I read some previous posts about bad outcomes.
I had softies and fish in the 55 g when I dosed the chem clean. With that tank, it got rid of the cyano and never returned,
Now I have sps, zoos and clams and am worried about dosing the chem clean. I read some previous posts about bad outcomes.
TryTheChi
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Another possibility is that prodi took your nutrients down and zeo finished the job. If a tank is sufferring from high levels of nutrients it takes time to clear up what is being leached back from th esand/rocks. Its possible had you waited with prodi - you may have got the results you were looking for. We'll never know now
Bebo77
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8134997#post8134997 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TryTheChi
Another possibility is that prodi took your nutrients down and zeo finished the job. If a tank is sufferring from high levels of nutrients it takes time to clear up what is being leached back from th esand/rocks. Its possible had you waited with prodi - you may have got the results you were looking for. We'll never know now
thats what you would think but i did not start Zeo right away, i waited 2 months after prodi before i started Zeo because i did not want to nuke my tank. with prodi i had a bad cyano break out (did not have one before or have had one since)... IMO a nutrient deprived system like prodibio should not let this happen, but i see it over and over in this thread with people fighing algea blooms while using this product? go figure... even melev was fighting an algea bloom and he has been runing this product for months. For some yes it works but i really dont see consistant results from fellow reefers to make me want to use this product again. again JMO
i would love to see some people switch over to zeo for 3 months and post their results.. to see it i am not alone in this....
ROR
New member
I am at 4 months now and my algae is all but gone. I thought it would never go away, but about 3 weeks ago it just started to disappear on it's own. The algae wasn't caused by Prodibio though, it started whern I switched to T5s 5 months ago. I can't say Prodibio made it go away either, it could have been that my tank just needed time to adjust to the changes I've made recently. Prodibio is so gentle IMO it's hard to tell if it's doing anything at all 
I might try stopping in 2 months just to see if anything happens.
I might try stopping in 2 months just to see if anything happens.
melev
Well-known member
I'm positive my cyano issue was due to the massive amount of Golden Pearls I added to my home made food. I totally forgot how potent that stuff was, and how badly it causes cyano to bloom if you overfeed with that stuff.
Prodibio surely had nothing to do with it. I stopped using that food, and the main tank has a tiny spec of it in three places now. And everything is looking cleaner at last. Here's a full tank shot:
Prodibio surely had nothing to do with it. I stopped using that food, and the main tank has a tiny spec of it in three places now. And everything is looking cleaner at last. Here's a full tank shot:
Adding bacteria to your system does not make it an instant low nutrient system. You can only manipulate your bacterial populations so much, they are always in flux and will always try to get back to what your system can support. On the other hand, it's very easy to add nutrients past the point of your biological filters being able to deal with them. I'm sure that's one of the reasons some people struggle with Zeo products too.
TryTheChi
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Spot on IMO. 2 months is a short time frame to turn arround an algae plagued reef. It took a fellow reefer I worked with in the UK 4 months to achieve alage free condition. Zeo themselves also counsel patience in expecting results - up to 11 months. I'm not so keen on oneupmanship in comparing these methods when the comparisons are not done in a fair way and without understanding the principles of how things work or interrelate with each other and over time- I just dont think it helps us take the agenda forward. Maybe sometimes the urge to see Iwan type results can make us a little impatient at times, and cut and run early? Understandable of course
Slow and steady, less is more
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TryTheChi
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Thanks. Prodi for 5 months a la Iwan method and pure zeo basic 4 (no prodi) for 3 months. The reason I went for zeo was because the daily feeding of the corals via the mulm made sense to me, and wanted to see for myself if it made a difference. I think it has.
I'm not so sure about the zeolites though and I'm thinking that one could get the benefits by using LR rubble in a zeo reactor and shake daily. I think its entirely possible to use prodi digest with such an arrangement, and feed the bacs with either tpim or start 2. I'll try that in 6 months when my supply of zeolites runs out.
During the zeo basic 4 phase I have lost 3 sps to TN, and I lost none during the prodi phase. I'm not saying the TN was caused by zeo, just that the two events co-incided.
The improvement to my growth and colors since using zeo basic 4 instead of prodi could also be down to the tank maturing?
Personally, I think both approaches to bacteria driven nutrient reduction produce results, that daily rather than fortnighly bac dosing (via the mulm rather than the innoculations) is better, and all that form the foundation for element addition.
I'm personally impressed by the zeo focus on potassium, has really helped my colors, and B-ballance is excellent.
How about you - what have you noticed in terms of growth and color - any pics to share?
Cheers
Simon
cerreta
Premium Member
Prodibio Reference picture updates. I forgot to post the 2 month pictures, so I will do it as side-by-sides with the three month post Prodibio.
As a reminder, the tank is now 4 months old and Prodibio has been in use for 3 months.
Also, I used different cameras for these events. The 2 month Post Prodibio photos were taken with a Nikon D200 and macro lens. The 3 month photos were taken with a point and shoot Cannon.
Hydnophora 2 months post Prodibio
Hydnophora 3 months post Prodibio
Candy Cane coral 2 months post Prodibio
Candy Cane coral 3 months post Prodibio
Blue Tort 2 months post Prodibio this had deeper, richer colors here and the growth was fast and furious.
Blue Tort 3 months post Prodibio. The growth has slowed and the color has lightened.
Green Cap 2 months post Prodibio
Green Cap 3 months post Prodibio. Noticeable growth in this coral.
As a reminder, the tank is now 4 months old and Prodibio has been in use for 3 months.
Also, I used different cameras for these events. The 2 month Post Prodibio photos were taken with a Nikon D200 and macro lens. The 3 month photos were taken with a point and shoot Cannon.
Hydnophora 2 months post Prodibio
Hydnophora 3 months post Prodibio
Candy Cane coral 2 months post Prodibio
Candy Cane coral 3 months post Prodibio
Blue Tort 2 months post Prodibio this had deeper, richer colors here and the growth was fast and furious.
Blue Tort 3 months post Prodibio. The growth has slowed and the color has lightened.
Green Cap 2 months post Prodibio
Green Cap 3 months post Prodibio. Noticeable growth in this coral.
cerreta
Premium Member
Orange Digitata 2 months post Prodibio. This coral was looking good and growing very fast.
Orange Digitata 3 months post Prodibio. Growth slowed. PE has been reduced, and color has lightened.
Green Apple Acropora 2 month post Prodibio
Green Apple Acropora 3 month post Prodibio. Noticeable growth in this coral. Color is remarkable. PE is excellent.
Purple tip nana 2 weeks post Prodibio. Looks good and the tips became even purpler up to about 2 weeks ago.
Purple tip nana 3 months post Prodibio. The growth has retarded, some sections have a bit of STN, and the color in the tips has lightened. This could be the result of many things. I recently started cutting back lights for an aggressive move to stop the hair algae.
Dragon Eye zoos 2 week post Prodibio. The hair algae were growing ramped over most zoo colonies. I had to rescue many of them and place them in the sump for recovery. Many of them did not even open due to the massive algae intrusion. Including these.
Dragon Eye zoos 3 month post Prodibio. Most zoo colonies are thriving right now, with lots of growth, full expansion and the skirt lengths have been increasing in size.
Orange Digitata 3 months post Prodibio. Growth slowed. PE has been reduced, and color has lightened.
Green Apple Acropora 2 month post Prodibio
Green Apple Acropora 3 month post Prodibio. Noticeable growth in this coral. Color is remarkable. PE is excellent.
Purple tip nana 2 weeks post Prodibio. Looks good and the tips became even purpler up to about 2 weeks ago.
Purple tip nana 3 months post Prodibio. The growth has retarded, some sections have a bit of STN, and the color in the tips has lightened. This could be the result of many things. I recently started cutting back lights for an aggressive move to stop the hair algae.
Dragon Eye zoos 2 week post Prodibio. The hair algae were growing ramped over most zoo colonies. I had to rescue many of them and place them in the sump for recovery. Many of them did not even open due to the massive algae intrusion. Including these.
Dragon Eye zoos 3 month post Prodibio. Most zoo colonies are thriving right now, with lots of growth, full expansion and the skirt lengths have been increasing in size.
