Prodibio
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cerreta
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Here is a 2 week post Prodibio full tank shot
Here is a 3 month post Prodibio full tank shot
Here is a picture of the sps corals I have lost since the 2week post Prodibio era.
Again, I have mixed feelings about the Prodibio. I have considered stopping several times. However, I have also come to the conclusion that it is not doing anything at all. One thing is for sure. The reefs we try to keep as hobbyists are complicated and it is very difficult to differentiate between causes of a bad event.
I have had so many different small problems, that I can not choose any one specific item as being a cause for the coral deaths. I have had issues with alk, temp, lighting, alage, etc. One thing I have learned from observance of reef conservation efforts is that coral reefs are tough. They can resist stressors quite well, when handed one or two at a time. However, like the Figi coral bleaching event (in 2000 or so) when multiple stressors are present, reef systems become weakened and suffer. In this specific event, temperature elevations occurred along with polluted river water run-off from inner island deforestation, and many fish species, including sharks left the area. I think there were a couple more stressors too.
So, it is not a surprise that I have had these losses. I am not too quick to blame it on Prodibio until I can get some stressors under control.
Here is a 3 month post Prodibio full tank shot
Here is a picture of the sps corals I have lost since the 2week post Prodibio era.
Again, I have mixed feelings about the Prodibio. I have considered stopping several times. However, I have also come to the conclusion that it is not doing anything at all. One thing is for sure. The reefs we try to keep as hobbyists are complicated and it is very difficult to differentiate between causes of a bad event.
I have had so many different small problems, that I can not choose any one specific item as being a cause for the coral deaths. I have had issues with alk, temp, lighting, alage, etc. One thing I have learned from observance of reef conservation efforts is that coral reefs are tough. They can resist stressors quite well, when handed one or two at a time. However, like the Figi coral bleaching event (in 2000 or so) when multiple stressors are present, reef systems become weakened and suffer. In this specific event, temperature elevations occurred along with polluted river water run-off from inner island deforestation, and many fish species, including sharks left the area. I think there were a couple more stressors too.
So, it is not a surprise that I have had these losses. I am not too quick to blame it on Prodibio until I can get some stressors under control.
Bebo77
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8137892#post8137892 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
As requested:
3/19/06
9/11/06
not a big change IMO, but still a great tank .. i would love to see what your tank would look like on Zeo, but i know you are not a fan of the stuff...
Chrisrush
New member
Good morning all,
I was trying to remember where I read that someone was dosing booster before a water change and then dosing the ptim/digest after the water change. Has anyone heard of that before? I need to dose all 3 products this weekend, and I need to do a water change on Sun., so if I need to dose a product (either booster or ptim/digest) today, I need to figure it out rather quickly.
TIA,
I was trying to remember where I read that someone was dosing booster before a water change and then dosing the ptim/digest after the water change. Has anyone heard of that before? I need to dose all 3 products this weekend, and I need to do a water change on Sun., so if I need to dose a product (either booster or ptim/digest) today, I need to figure it out rather quickly.
TIA,
Labman48076
New member
Prodi & algae problems
Prodi & algae problems
ok I have been doing Prodi this is my 3 dose using BIO Digest, Bioptim and reef booster and well coral color is good latley though my zoo's are closing up and p04 is going up
up to 15 bpm tested by a hatch meter I just removed a big clump of bubble algae, got so irrataed with algea I scubed one of my acro's with a toothbrush and fresh water dips I know not smart hope it does okf I just couldn't stand it. my tank was perfect before I started prodi now it's getting worse I am fallowing the directions 1st I had bad lick with zeo and now prodi I am ready to go back to old school why are thing getting worse more algea groth well I no why p04 10% water changes once a week
Prodi & algae problems
ok I have been doing Prodi this is my 3 dose using BIO Digest, Bioptim and reef booster and well coral color is good latley though my zoo's are closing up and p04 is going up
up to 15 bpm tested by a hatch meter I just removed a big clump of bubble algae, got so irrataed with algea I scubed one of my acro's with a toothbrush and fresh water dips I know not smart hope it does okf I just couldn't stand it. my tank was perfect before I started prodi now it's getting worse I am fallowing the directions 1st I had bad lick with zeo and now prodi I am ready to go back to old school why are thing getting worse more algea groth well I no why p04 10% water changes once a week
Bebo77
Premium Nonpaying Member
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8178958#post8178958 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TryTheChi
Thanks for the pics - nice
Do you think the losses were down to zeo?
i know that zeo was the cause.. as soon as i pulled the zeovit out the RTN stopped. i restarted Zeo some 2 months later and it took my 3 months to get to full strength but i did not lose any corals this time.
coraladdict
New member
Hi folks,
My tank has just finished it's cycle 4 days ago for which I had added digest to speed the cycle up.
Now I'm getting green hair algae , I was asking myself if I could add more digest and biotim to help me get rid of this bloom?
Thanks
My tank has just finished it's cycle 4 days ago for which I had added digest to speed the cycle up.
Now I'm getting green hair algae , I was asking myself if I could add more digest and biotim to help me get rid of this bloom?
Thanks
ROR
New member
Labman, you should stop the Reefbooster untill you get the algae under control, and nitrates should be near 0. The algae doesn't have to be completely gone but should be on the retreat. You might want to consider a phosphate reator if your not already running one- just as a precaution.
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If you are having a problem with Prodibio, e-mail them. They are both fast and thorough in their replies. :thumbsup:
zanclus
In Memoriam
I have tried Prodibio for a few months and have not seen any results that tell me it is worth the effort. Therefor I am selling what I have left. I have :
ReefBoost--- 2 30 Packs unopened plus 1 pack with 9 vials left
Bioptim ------1 30 Pack unopened plus 1 pack with 20 vials
Reed Digest 1 opened 30 pack with 22 vials left
I will take $125 for the lot plus $10 shipping.
ReefBoost--- 2 30 Packs unopened plus 1 pack with 9 vials left
Bioptim ------1 30 Pack unopened plus 1 pack with 20 vials
Reed Digest 1 opened 30 pack with 22 vials left
I will take $125 for the lot plus $10 shipping.
I use the Prodibio System for 3 years now and I have great experiences with that. Less NO3 and less PO4, colourful corals and a very stabile microbiology in the tank.
I dose one ampulla Prodibio BioDigest and one ampulla Bioptim every 2 weeks in my 65 gallon tank after the water change.
After that dosing I switch off the skimmer for one hour. I have neither ozon dosing nor UV-lights in my system.
If you have an UV-light, you should switch it off for a half day.
The Reefbooster I only dose it if the PO4 and NO3 is very less. It is very effective. Don't use too much of it - otherwise your skimmer would foam over and your PO4 increases too much.
I feed my corals with the Reefbooster, with DT's Phyto and with oister eggs to reduce the danger of nutrition limiting.
I never lost a coral since that day I use the Prodibio system.
But you have to be very carefull if you feed these bacterias with Zeostart2 or with other carbureted products like wodka or vinegar. These products let grow up the population of these bacterias so fast, that you could loose some corals. So you have to look for the correct dosing.
Another point where you have to be carefull is, if you are using a DSB-system in your tank. DSB reduces much of NO3, because it spends these bacterias a big living space and you might reduce the dosing of BioDigest and Bioptim depending on your NO3-concentration. I would start with only a half or quarter ampulla BioDigest in 65 gallon tank if you have a DSB and then test the NO3 and PO4 concentration after 2 weeks. I use one ampulla BioDigest in 65 gallon because I have many fishes. You should dose this only if you feed your corals daily or you have many fishes.
If you are dosing carefully Zeostart2 or other carbureted products it's a very effective way to lower the PO4 and NO3 concentration in your tank and a little bit better than only using Bioptim for feeding these bacterias.
I dose e.g. 0,7 ml a day of Zeostart2 in combination with the Prodibio system in my 65 gallon tank. It depends how many fishes you have, whether you have a DSB-system or not, skimming etc.
Another advantage of BioDigest is when you're dosing Zeostart2 or other carbureted products in combination with the BioDigest bacterias the danger of growing up other bad bacterias (Protozoen, fish deseases etc.) is very less instead of using these carbureted products without BioDigest bacterias.
For me these bacterias of Prodibio are the most important things after skimming, lights and streaming. They help in a very easy and effective way to keep the water clear and clean in the tank and support the biodiversity in our small reefs.
They are sometimes also very usefull against cyanos!!!
And now one important thing: Because of the better water quality (very less PO4 and NO3) the corals grow very fast and they need more food and other supplements than before. You should feed them with aminos, reefbooster, oister eggs and phyto and take care that they have enough Ca, Mg, Hydrogencarbonat, Iron and Potassium. Especially if Potassium is very low the corals look like on those fotos of Scott.
Sudad
I dose one ampulla Prodibio BioDigest and one ampulla Bioptim every 2 weeks in my 65 gallon tank after the water change.
After that dosing I switch off the skimmer for one hour. I have neither ozon dosing nor UV-lights in my system.
If you have an UV-light, you should switch it off for a half day.
The Reefbooster I only dose it if the PO4 and NO3 is very less. It is very effective. Don't use too much of it - otherwise your skimmer would foam over and your PO4 increases too much.
I feed my corals with the Reefbooster, with DT's Phyto and with oister eggs to reduce the danger of nutrition limiting.
I never lost a coral since that day I use the Prodibio system.
But you have to be very carefull if you feed these bacterias with Zeostart2 or with other carbureted products like wodka or vinegar. These products let grow up the population of these bacterias so fast, that you could loose some corals. So you have to look for the correct dosing.
Another point where you have to be carefull is, if you are using a DSB-system in your tank. DSB reduces much of NO3, because it spends these bacterias a big living space and you might reduce the dosing of BioDigest and Bioptim depending on your NO3-concentration. I would start with only a half or quarter ampulla BioDigest in 65 gallon tank if you have a DSB and then test the NO3 and PO4 concentration after 2 weeks. I use one ampulla BioDigest in 65 gallon because I have many fishes. You should dose this only if you feed your corals daily or you have many fishes.
If you are dosing carefully Zeostart2 or other carbureted products it's a very effective way to lower the PO4 and NO3 concentration in your tank and a little bit better than only using Bioptim for feeding these bacterias.
I dose e.g. 0,7 ml a day of Zeostart2 in combination with the Prodibio system in my 65 gallon tank. It depends how many fishes you have, whether you have a DSB-system or not, skimming etc.
Another advantage of BioDigest is when you're dosing Zeostart2 or other carbureted products in combination with the BioDigest bacterias the danger of growing up other bad bacterias (Protozoen, fish deseases etc.) is very less instead of using these carbureted products without BioDigest bacterias.
For me these bacterias of Prodibio are the most important things after skimming, lights and streaming. They help in a very easy and effective way to keep the water clear and clean in the tank and support the biodiversity in our small reefs.
They are sometimes also very usefull against cyanos!!!
And now one important thing: Because of the better water quality (very less PO4 and NO3) the corals grow very fast and they need more food and other supplements than before. You should feed them with aminos, reefbooster, oister eggs and phyto and take care that they have enough Ca, Mg, Hydrogencarbonat, Iron and Potassium. Especially if Potassium is very low the corals look like on those fotos of Scott.
Sudad
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