Prodibio

[Creetin]

Btw i only dosed 8 amps of the biogest. i dosed 2 amps of the bioptim so half the reccomended dose there. I didnt buy any of the other stuff because i wanted to try this stuff out first.
My tank is low already in po4 .03 on the hanna this morn, and undetectable nitrates per tropicmarin.
So i pray this does not bite me in the *** for trying it.

 

[PSam]

I'd definitely keep a watch for any TN or other reaction, I imagine you'll be fine though since just a bunch of bacs

 

[Creetin]

Thank you for your help.

 

[Creetin]

Redox/ORP is falling 310 mV when i started to 283 mV now, and drifting lower by the minute. I set my BK to run more water thru it to get the o2 back in the water so i basically have alot more going thru my skimmer than normal. Water is ready but i am not sure a waterchange will do anything. Turned tank temp down to help fish to adjust to lower o2 if they cont to fall. Got tons of flow on the surface of every tank thats on the system so i hope it stops falling!!!
The thing is people are saying to do the 1 ampule to 60 litres to start off with in another thread, and i was told that by the person that sells this stuff to do so also.
If it still falls for the next hr i will do a massive waterchange, But i believe the bak is set in too well now.

 

[PSam]

If they (prodibio) said that's the starting dose, I wouldn't sweat it. Just keep an eye on your animals for a couple days. Don't do something drastic because ORP dropped some. You just put in a bunch of bacs, should be fine.

 

[reefkoi]

I don't think you can od on the biodigest, its just beneficial bacteria, you should be ok

 

[Canarygirl]

I can imagine them recommending 60 gallons per ampule, but not 60 liters per ampule....are you certain it was liters?

 

[Creetin]

Prodibio didnt reccomend it it was a retailor. I may be just panicing. Looks to be stabil now at 282mV

 

[glassbox-design]

iirc that is the dosage when first starting an aquarium to jump start the cycle....not for an established reef.

creetin you should be fine. if it was optim or C source it would be a different situation.

 

[Creetin]

Thanks, Its still at 282 mV, I just paniced as i seen it drop so low that fast, My orp is never that low. I just calibrated it too last night so i knew it was on.
My Xenia alarm is ok and pulsing away. I always keep a small patch so i know when things are going south as they react first.
Thanks again guys.

 

[Zedar]

Dosing to many bacs is just a waste of money. Not going to hurt anything.

Speaking of money.. I'm on my 4th month of dosing "stability and vodka" with great results.... and allot less money spent

PO4 .02
Nitrates.... undetectable.

Hair algae ....whats that?
water clarity .... is there water in their?

Corals never looked so good.

 

[Creetin]

Stability as keeping tank stabil? I dosed vodka with really no effect. I dosed so much i could prolly get a buzz off the tank.
I think my system is too low for vodka to work well, and just a hair above what i would like. I am stuck in a limbo, I am getting nice deep blues, and purples. I just would like a little tweek, and maybe save some moolah on GFO.
All that said, Redox at 301mV this morn so i wigged out for nothing. LOL It did make my orp fall so some reaction happened. Wish i knew what the dissolved o2 was.
Hopefully it was the bak attacking some detritus LOL
Skimmer is pulling out some dark nog.

 

[glassbox-design]

Zedar & Creetin,

This may be of some interest....here is a write up I did on our DIY mixed C-source and prodibio combo.

Link: Achieved through....

 

[Zedar]

stability by seachem. its bacteria in a bottle.

Vodka didnt work? your probably nitrate limited.

If your nitrates are undetectable you may not have enough to get a good bacterial population going.

This may sound crazy but adding a little potassium nitrate may be the ticket to getting your phosphates down lower.

Prodibio works because it feeds bacteria carbon. These bacteria then consume the carbon, nitrates and phosphates. If anyone of the three are limited (not available in large enough quantities) then these bacteria die off.

So If you start out with low Carbon, Low Nitrates but high phosphates then you can see what happens. Over time the nitrates are all used up but theres still too much phosphate because you started out with an imbalance. You can add carbon(vodka,prodibio,methanol,ethonol,sugar,snickers bar too your hearts content but it wont be utilized.

This is typical of systems that run deep sand beds. The DSB is good at removing nitrates threw DEnitrification but doesn't address phosphates. So over time the tank becomes imbalanced.

 

[Zedar]

double post

 

[adtravels]

do you use carbon with the prodibio?

 

[PSam]

I do.

 

[Lagger]

so anyone experience color LOSS while dosing prodibio? just curious

 

[Zedar]

Glassbox,

Thanks for the info.

I dosed an equal combo of sugar,vodka, vinegar.
I too observed with vinegar and sugar that they create more slime then vodka alone. When my tank was still being cleaned up I used all three. I would get slime all over the rocks. And surface slime in the sump that i would skim off the surface water. I was dosing too much but it had no ill affect. As a matter of fact the corals showed great PE.

My tank has now achieved low nutrient levels so this last batch ive only dosed vodka. Im monitoring this to see the results.

Seachem stability says this about their product.

"Stabilityâ"žÂ¢ contains a synergistic blend of aerobic, anaerobic, and facultative bacteria which facilitate the breakdown of waste organics, ammonia, and nitrate. "

Its cheaper then any of the other products out there.

 

[Zedar]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12079448#post12079448 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lagger
so anyone experience color LOSS while dosing prodibio? just curious

With any of the bacteria driven systems you need to dose amino acids.
Potassium is also a factor.