Project ACHILLES TANGS

[kueytoc]

:lol2: Wanna know whether anyone has successfully raised more than one ACHILLES TANG in your tank. Please post pics & share your success factors so that we can hopefully learn some unique methods of keeping more than one ACHILLES TANG.

:fun4: I know the Reef Guru CHINGCHAI has done it in his beautiful DSPS tank which is mine inspiration.

:dance: PICs of mine THREE MUSKETEERS aka LES TROIS MOUSQUETAIRES

 

[skibum9884]

AHHHH!!!! Don't name them! That's the kiss of death for fish!

 

[kueytoc]

:smokin: Surely DEAD CAN DANCE !!! :fish1:

AHHHH!!!! Don't name them! That's the kiss of death for fish!

 

[TampaReefer79]

:smokin: Surely DEAD CAN DANCE !!! :fish1:

Is it just me, or does this fish look really sick?

 

[Reefman29]

The fish does seem to have some white spots on it. I can't tell if it is just the photo, but it is a definite concern.

 

[mapleredta]

Is it just me, or does this fish look really sick?

I agree. That fish appears to have one of the worst cases of ich I ever seen. Good luck with it.

 

[SantaCruzReefer]

Get the fish to quarantine before all the other fish get sick. And no the dead won't be dancing when all of your tangs die. Beacause they'll be dead.

 

[jmaneyapanda]

Please define "successfully raised". In the first photo, it looks as if all three fish are ready to battle. ANd, as stated, the second photo is a sick fish.

I applaud Chinchai for constructing his beautiful system and aquarium, but I would certainly not yet say it is successful. If I recall correctly, he tried three, losing one to aggression, and now has 4 more in QT (where originally there was 5). We shall see how it works out.

 

[kueytoc]

:spin3: Well moi ATs & some sensitive long-term residents have lived through bouts of ICH every now & then. As long as they are eating well, I'm not unduly worried.

Moi resident AT has been with me for a year & he still does contracts ICH sometimes.

"Successfully raised" mean over a period of time, perhaps more than 3 months for stability sake.

Of course the 3 ATs will have small skirmishes at times but nothing serious or damaging to their well being. They are TANGS, it's one of their characteristics.

Unless you have tried, for me it's an amazing sight to see moi ATs grazing the LR & wow eating pellets side by side. :bounce1:

 

[jmaneyapanda]

:spin3: Well moi ATs & some sensitive long-term residents have lived through bouts of ICH every now & then. As long as they are eating well, I'm not unduly worried.

Moi resident AT has been with me for a year & he still does contracts ICH sometimes.

"Successfully raised" mean over a period of time, perhaps more than 3 months for stability sake.

Of course the 3 ATs will have small skirmishes at times but nothing serious or damaging to their well being. They are TANGS, it's one of their characteristics.

Unless you have tried, for me it's an amazing sight to see moi ATs grazing the LR & wow eating pellets side by side. :bounce1:

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but in my opinion, 3 months is nowhere near enough time to consider success.

I dont understand, do you have 1 tang, or 3? How long have you had all three together?

 

[kueytoc]

:smokin:That's why I said 3 months or more. However, I feel that 3-months should be a reasonable gauge to determine the success of keeping the species.

I have 3 ATs, one toughie AT been with me for a year & 2 ATs added about a month ago. So far all of them are behaving & feeding well which surpass my expectations. :dance:

I'm keeping a close tab of their daily activities & hopefully learned something about their behaviors which could have been misunderstood all this while.

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but in my opinion, 3 months is nowhere near enough time to consider success.

I dont understand, do you have 1 tang, or 3? How long have you had all three together?

 

[psykokid]

gauging the longevity of how a species does in captivity for a period of just a few months when they can live for many years in the wild is quite a poor measure..

 

[kueytoc]

:smokin: Of course the captive ATs should be alive & kicking after living through the critical 3-months period which should be a reasonable gauge.

:reading: The main purpose of this post is gather knowledge from reefers who have successfully kept more than one AT currently to share their experiences & discoveries. Hopefully, these information can help us unravel some myths about AT.

:strooper: I don't need foolish criticism or nonsensical remark which does not add value to this thread.

 

[jmaneyapanda]

:smokin: Of course the captive ATs should be alive & kicking after living through the critical 3-months period which should be a reasonable gauge.

:reading: The main purpose of this post is gather knowledge from reefers who have successfully kept more than one AT currently to share their experiences & discoveries. Hopefully, these information can help us unravel some myths about AT.

:strooper: I don't need foolish criticism or nonsensical remark which does not add value to this thread.

Wow. So, perhaps you can identify what these mysterious "myths" are about achilles tangs? In my opinion, they are reasonably well understood in their care.

If you think its "foolish criticism" and "nonsensical remarks" that state that 3 months is NOT a suitable time to do a victory dance and claim success, then you are sadly deluding yourself. Good luck to you and good bye.

 

[gasman059]

That's why I said 3 months or more. However, I feel that 3-months should be a reasonable gauge to determine the success of keeping the species.

3 months is nowhere near what a success story should be. Unless u are housing a 1200-5000 gallon tank I doubt very much you will find many success stories.

One of the purpose of this forums is to educate their readers,there's is no chance IMo u can keep more than one healthy for a long period of time.


there's no myths about tangs especially one that has been kept in captivity for such a long time, extremely territorial, those pics of shoals are adults in the wild not in captivity.

No such thing as what we don't know--- its all in my honest opinion LUCK:uzi:

 

[kueytoc]

:smokin: So have U tried keeping more than one AT yet ?

:reading: The myths that I'm trying to uncover is from having more than one AT in a closed captive environment. Of course we all understood from friends and marine books alike advising us of its tender-loving care & that we can only keep ONE due to its extreme aggressiveness, unforgiving sensitivity, etc.

Again I'm puzzled why you are so extremely 'obsessed' with this 3-months thingy. I'm not claiming success or blowing the vuvuzela here. Mind you I'm still learning & I want to learn from reefers who can provide positive and objective feedbacks.

:wave: Yeah sayonara to U too & do drop by when U are ready to contribute positively.

Wow. So, perhaps you can identify what these mysterious "myths" are about achilles tangs? In my opinion, they are reasonably well understood in their care.

If you think its "foolish criticism" and "nonsensical remarks" that state that 3 months is NOT a suitable time to do a victory dance and claim success, then you are sadly deluding yourself. Good luck to you and good bye.

 

[kueytoc]

:smokin: Agreed but like I said we need a 'cut-off' timeframe here so as to share stories and findings. Would you say let's come back here after 5 years of successful keeping. We gotta be realistic here.

Everything is possible notwithstanding luck alone juz like my fantastic reefer mate who has successfully bred and raised the notoriously impossible
Oblique-Lined or Mccullochi Dottyback in his decent home apartment without prohibitive capital investment.

3 months is nowhere near what a success story should be. Unless u are housing a 1200-5000 gallon tank I doubt very much you will find many success stories.

One of the purpose of this forums is to educate their readers,there's is no chance IMo u can keep more than one healthy for a long period of time.


there's no myths about tangs especially one that has been kept in captivity for such a long time, extremely territorial, those pics of shoals are adults in the wild not in captivity.

No such thing as what we don't know--- its all in my honest opinion LUCK:uzi:

 

[mallorieGgator]

Even though you say the one has had ich sometimes, it's now under more stress with the two others in the tank so it's immune system can crash causing the ich to gain a stronghold and greatly affect or kill your fish. I would deffinately treat them because I think you will have more success in the long run if they are ich-free.
Good luck!

 

[kueytoc]

Point taken thanks. I'm closely monitoring their eating behaviors & activities. To date, the resident toughie AT has developed no ICH yet (touch wood) & the other 2 ATs are showing signs of recovery. All ATs are rushing after pellets & feeding well till today which is heartening to see.

Even though you say the one has had ich sometimes, it's now under more stress with the two others in the tank so it's immune system can crash causing the ich to gain a stronghold and greatly affect or kill your fish. I would deffinately treat them because I think you will have more success in the long run if they are ich-free.
Good luck!

 

[Big E]

kueytoc,

I see no point in you & others debating this............It seems everyone has weighed in at this point.

Why don't you keep this thread going with posts of your photographic progress monthly & share your experience/findings over the next year. It should be easy to share your observations on how they do.

Start with tank size, other tank mates, what you are feeding, how often. Why not post a quick video of them to keep here on file. How are they getting along now, is there a pecking order?