Recipe for conditioning/spawning ingredients... cooked crab?

[alaska clowns]

One of us was buying the ingredients to make some fish food and brought home a container of "pasteurized" ready-to-eat crab meat... can that go in my recipe for the fish? or do we need to have a snack tonight

Also, I was wondering if anyone else makes their own food and has any special ingredients that they include in their broodstock diet?

I'm considering using one of my own multivitamins because that's what I have on hand, and I have some astaxanthin capsules, and vitamin C powder.

Thank you!

 

[billsreef]

Raw is better than the ready to eat stuff. However, the ready to eat stuff is OK so long as it hasn't been subject to any "preservatives". For homemade, just go with a variety of things like fish, clams, mussels, shrimp, squid, roe...especially roe (very nutritious). On the side of prepared fish foods, I like to add some Otohime or New Life Spectrum pellets.

 

[sullyfish]

I remember e thread awhile back here on RC that live blackworms helped. I want t try some soon but they are hard to get around here.

 

[billsreef]

Live blackworms are good for getting some finicky fish eating. Though in general I would not include them in a food mix for marine fish. Being a fresh water organism, they are lacking in the HUFA's needed by marine fish.

 

[GreshamH]

Raw is better than the ready to eat stuff. However, the ready to eat stuff is OK so long as it hasn't been subject to any "preservatives". For homemade, just go with a variety of things like fish, clams, mussels, shrimp, squid, roe...especially roe (very nutritious). On the side of prepared fish foods, I like to add some Otohime or New Life Spectrum pellets.

I don't think you can technically call what is sold in stores as roe... usually its a clump of eggs removed from the roe sack.

 

[alaska clowns]

I don't think you can technically call what is sold in stores as roe... usually its a clump of eggs removed from the roe sack.

Having never shopped for it myself.... do you know if the seafood counter would call it "roe" or something else?

 

[vwwanksta69]

I use prawn eggs. Fish love it.

 

[alaska clowns]

I use prawn eggs. Fish love it.

Where do you find those?

 

[sullyfish]

these look like them. I might have to try these...

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=18988

 

[alaska clowns]

Ok, thanks! I had in my mind grocery item, but that's not a grocery item I now have two cleaner shrimp in my tank, maybe they'll spawn and produce some nutritious offspring!

 

[vwwanksta69]

these look like them. I might have to try these...

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=18988

Yep that's the one I use to put in my mush.

 

[billsreef]

I don't think you can technically call what is sold in stores as roe... usually its a clump of eggs removed from the roe sack.

I might be a bit spoiled from living on the coast, but I've never seen it in the seafood store (i.e. everything is straight from the boat) in any other form than the entire roe sack. Shad roe is quite good when lightly breaded and fried

 

[alaska clowns]

Not finding roe at any of the regular grocery stores, I checked out the Asian grocery store. They have roe, but the ingredients include MSG, cooking wine and various food colorings. I was initially under the impression that fish eggs came from fish rather than processing?!?!? Oh well. I guess I'll wait until this summer and collect roe when we fish for our Copper River red salmon

 

[billsreef]

Unfortunately in major markets, even fish is processed. Often with stuff to make it keep it's color and look fresher than it really is

 

[GreshamH]

Not finding roe at any of the regular grocery stores, I checked out the Asian grocery store. They have roe, but the ingredients include MSG, cooking wine and various food colorings. I was initially under the impression that fish eggs came from fish rather than processing?!?!? Oh well. I guess I'll wait until this summer and collect roe when we fish for our Copper River red salmon

You have a thriving Herring industry up there and they collect those IIRC at the peak of egg nutrition Herring roe is excellent, and easy to clean unlike some roes I am currently dealing with.

FWIW some roes, like "flying fish" and capline are very hard to find unprocessed. Much of the seafood industry has moved to utilizing most of what they can, and processing it as quick as they can.

 

[GreshamH]

I might be a bit spoiled from living on the coast, but I've never seen it in the seafood store (i.e. everything is straight from the boat) in any other form than the entire roe sack. Shad roe is quite good when lightly breaded and fried

Let me put it this way... I have never not lived on the coast, or in a fishing community First job @ 10 was on a fishing boat.

left coast - right coast deal I suspect. We do not have the same runs you do and what we do have, is dealt with differently.

 

[billsreef]

Let me put it this way... I have never not lived on the coast, or in a fishing community First job @ 10 was on a fishing boat.

left coast - right coast deal I suspect. We do not have the same runs you do and what we do have, is dealt with differently.

I expect your right about the left coast-right coast bit and different fish. I also know there are some differences in the state of various fisheries between the left and right coasts that often make for some interesting arguments between left and right coast fisheries researchers

 

[alaska clowns]

You have a thriving Herring industry up there and they collect those IIRC at the peak of egg nutrition Herring roe is excellent, and easy to clean unlike some roes I am currently dealing with.

FWIW some roes, like "flying fish" and capline are very hard to find unprocessed. Much of the seafood industry has moved to utilizing most of what they can, and processing it as quick as they can.

Sometimes I think people outside of Alaska know more about my state than I do I'm as far away from any coast as possible in Alaska (Fairbanks). If I don't come across some Herring eggs up here this winter, I'll look when we drive down to the Kenai Peninsula next summer. Thanks - now I do have something more specific to look for!

Cleaning the roe never crossed my mind before.... there must be more to it than, say, rinsing it in water? I'm glad you mentioned that because I may have skipped that step entirely. Sorry for the ignorant question...

I've only ever heard legends of people preparing "salmon egg pie" and the like (and not for their reef tanks ) You can tell I haven't tried sushi yet When I was a kid I used to just throw the salmon roe to the seagulls :eek1:

 

[GreshamH]

I expect your right about the left coast-right coast bit and different fish. I also know there are some differences in the state of various fisheries between the left and right coasts that often make for some interesting arguments between left and right coast fisheries researchers

If any right coaster is arguing we have solid standing stocks or just about any fish around, mark them as hacks

 

[GreshamH]

Sometimes I think people outside of Alaska know more about my state than I do I'm as far away from any coast as possible in Alaska (Fairbanks). If I don't come across some Herring eggs up here this winter, I'll look when we drive down to the Kenai Peninsula next summer. Thanks - now I do have something more specific to look for!

Cleaning the roe never crossed my mind before.... there must be more to it than, say, rinsing it in water? I'm glad you mentioned that because I may have skipped that step entirely. Sorry for the ignorant question...

I've only ever heard legends of people preparing "salmon egg pie" and the like (and not for their reef tanks ) You can tell I haven't tried sushi yet When I was a kid I used to just throw the salmon roe to the seagulls :eek1:

I love salmon roe

Typically freshwater is fine for rinsing eggs. They tend to be very tough, although the smaller the egg, typically the stronger they are.