wildman926
Active member
I had forgotten RC will not allow links to other reef sites. I will take this to a pm since you are still asking about the reference to the link. Apologies to OP.
Reef Dynamics Skimmers
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dahenley
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I asked that question, and this is the responce i got back from him (the owner)
First, Skimmer Pumps.: The difference in performance between the Eco-Plus 1066 (EPSP4-C) and the EHEIM1260/62 (E1260/62SP-C) is negligible. They both consume roughly the same amount of energy and pull the same amount of air and water. The Eco-Plus 1584 pump on the other hand does not have an equal from EHEIM. It is an extremely powerful pump and is the best choice at this point for value and performance on the skimmer we have paired it with. The primary differences between the EcoPlus and Eheim pumps -besides price which is substantial- are as follows:
1) Eheims are much better built and, if properly maintained, will last for many years. 15-20 years of service is not unrealistic. The EcoPlus pumps will last on average 4-6 years with perfect maintenance and zero stress i.e., running dry, etc.
2) Eheims are about 20% quieter than the EcoPlus equivalent.
First, Skimmer Pumps.: The difference in performance between the Eco-Plus 1066 (EPSP4-C) and the EHEIM1260/62 (E1260/62SP-C) is negligible. They both consume roughly the same amount of energy and pull the same amount of air and water. The Eco-Plus 1584 pump on the other hand does not have an equal from EHEIM. It is an extremely powerful pump and is the best choice at this point for value and performance on the skimmer we have paired it with. The primary differences between the EcoPlus and Eheim pumps -besides price which is substantial- are as follows:
1) Eheims are much better built and, if properly maintained, will last for many years. 15-20 years of service is not unrealistic. The EcoPlus pumps will last on average 4-6 years with perfect maintenance and zero stress i.e., running dry, etc.
2) Eheims are about 20% quieter than the EcoPlus equivalent.
dahenley
New member
here was the rest of the e-mail
(funny you should ask haha)
thats referring to a custom 220 i picked up and i was guessing around the 75 gallon range because im making a custom sump.
so it should be close. but he is a great person and will let you know for sure what you need. just give him your tank/sump/fish/coral selection. (i am a SPS kind of guy if that helps with the description)
(funny you should ask haha)
thats referring to a custom 220 i picked up and i was guessing around the 75 gallon range because im making a custom sump.
so it should be close. but he is a great person and will let you know for sure what you need. just give him your tank/sump/fish/coral selection. (i am a SPS kind of guy if that helps with the description)
I had a euroreef cs6 one or two on my 92 gallon mixed reef for 11 years and it did a great job even with the sedra 350 pump.
I have increased my system's total water volume in preparation for an upgrade to a 150 cube and recently purchased the reef dynamic INS250 with the standard ecoplus pump - this thing is GREAT.
I have had all of my fish for at least 9 years and I have about 15 different corals AND a deep sand bed.
I have increased my system's total water volume in preparation for an upgrade to a 150 cube and recently purchased the reef dynamic INS250 with the standard ecoplus pump - this thing is GREAT.
I have had all of my fish for at least 9 years and I have about 15 different corals AND a deep sand bed.
marc nichols
Premium Member
I recently fitted a BB2000 to my Euroreef 135. The BB cleasrly puts out more air than the Sedra and uses less electricity. BUT, it produced an unacceptable (for me). I spoke with the tech guy and ultimately decided to pot it in my salt make up tank to "break in" for 30 days. There's no rubber in the impeller shaft mounting which may be a contributor. As to ER, excellent USA construction..well built, direct service by the entrepreneur (Jeff) and available parts. And, yes, it works quite well after some 5 years now in my system. Now, if I can get the BB to be less intrusive I'd be a very happy camper.
i have an older model rs 80 on my 45 gal with a 30 gal sump more then half full skim dry and empty the cup once a week on my second inexpensive sedra pump skimmer
keeps working i was originally going to purchase super octopus but for the money i saved and the performance i have i m glad i didnt almost forgot i bought it used maybe 5 years ago
keeps working i was originally going to purchase super octopus but for the money i saved and the performance i have i m glad i didnt almost forgot i bought it used maybe 5 years ago
wildman926
Active member
Do you have pics?
docstomper
New member
Ohhh.. You sir just got called out!!
Although he is from Texas... everything in Texas is bigger... Bigger air draw is BETTER!
Although I have a Vertex so I just came to enjoy the thread.. BTW, That guy seems very intelligent in his YouTube videos!
dahenley
New member
are you saying the BB pump is nice, but too much air for the body?
or its too inconsistent as far as stability? or what do you mean?
thanks!
moondoggy4
Team RC
I have two different skimmers for my 120 tank a ITech 200 with a Tunze 9420 and a old school ER CS 8/2 aka RS 180. I just put the ER back in, I have the Sedra 5000 on right now I also have the eheim pump for it. I had Jeff do some custom work on it, this skimmer has the many turns to remove the cup, the problem with this old skimmer is the body is too tall and the neck is to abrupt. I has Jeff cut 4'' off the body and install a new style neck and now the skimmer is 22'' tall. I t gets turbulence at the neck so I run the skimmer at the lowest setting and it is really working great, I get about a cup a week of darker skimmate PS it is a large cup.
ErikS
New member
Sounds like a nice history............
Too bad it's a fantasy & utter rubbish.
Deltec came up with the needlewheel. Truthfully I can't remember if it was Stuart, David, or Klaus that came up with the needlewheel (pretty sure it was David &/or Stuart).............but at one time Deltec held some patent (Euro) on the design. Euro-reef attempted to copy it. The result was fail, more fail, and still more fail. They chose to use every POS import pump to be the budget alternative. While Deltec & Bubble King used high quality pumps from the beginning (which is why they cost a ton). Sen/Sedra, GenX.......all were rubbish pumps. Search, you'll find the famous rusting plates in the pumps.
It would seem that the re-incarnated company has finally realized the pump is the heart & soul of the skimmer & decided that better quality was the way to go = more success. They were not by any stretch of the imagination any kind of innovator (& don't look to be now).
CoralVue is a bit different - they made some of the cheapest junk on the market (I owned a couple).....make some of our import stuff look high quality :lol: They changed direction beginning with the SRO skimmers. From the start they realized the pump was key - like Bubble King they decided to use a proven Askoll/Laguna block w/ a custom volute/wheel. My hat is off to them, when they made the change to a higher qaulity is was successful - someone turned the company around & did a fine job.
Euro-Reef was not a "leader" in the field - they were a failed cloner, that's it.
As for cast versus extruded I couldn't care less as I don't drop kick them..............had an "extruded" Deltec, worked perfectly for 8 years..........it's now doing duty in someone else's tank.
skimmy
T3am Zissou
I couldnt hav said it better myself... 
look at the name...
"euro-reef" even implied it was some fancy european skimmer design..
if i was deltec or h&s, i would have been ****ed at them, even though the skimmers were basically not comparatively as good AT ALL.
like schuran should have gone after red sea for the berlin triple pass skimmer...even though berlin skimmers were an utter POS failure.
so all in all, with everything thats available now, there's no way you could get me to pay the overinflated price of a reef dynamics skimmer with crappy chinese pumps, or a poorly modded eheim.
thanks but no thanks...
look at the name...
"euro-reef" even implied it was some fancy european skimmer design..
if i was deltec or h&s, i would have been ****ed at them, even though the skimmers were basically not comparatively as good AT ALL.
like schuran should have gone after red sea for the berlin triple pass skimmer...even though berlin skimmers were an utter POS failure.
so all in all, with everything thats available now, there's no way you could get me to pay the overinflated price of a reef dynamics skimmer with crappy chinese pumps, or a poorly modded eheim.
thanks but no thanks...
I couldnt hav said it better myself...
look at the name...
"euro-reef" even implied it was some fancy european skimmer design..
if i was deltec or h&s, i would have been ****ed at them, even though the skimmers were basically not comparatively as good AT ALL.
like schuran should have gone after red sea for the berlin triple pass skimmer...even though berlin skimmers were an utter POS failure.
so all in all, with everything thats available now, there's no way you could get me to pay the overinflated price of a reef dynamics skimmer with crappy chinese pumps, or a poorly modded eheim.
thanks but no thanks...
I have to agree, the prices they are asking for a Reef Dynamic skimmer is crazy, much better options out there.:headwallblue:
marc nichols
Premium Member
What's the opinion here on the Bubble Blaster pumps? I bought one and found it noisy while others say it is silent. They sent me a replacement impeller which seems to be better but for now, I'm running it in the salt mix tub to break it in before hooking up to my skimmer body. They DO put out a ton of air, far more than the Sedra and they have no metal axle shaft.
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