reefcentral getting hostile?
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NCreefwannabe
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Ive been on alot of hobby forums. Cars mainly, other fish sites, games even lol. This site is by far the nicest ive seen. If you really wan to see flaming on noobs.... go to <font size="1" color="#0000FF">Your post is in violation of the <a href="/agreement.php">terms and conditions of use</a> of this web site and has been edited. Further violations will result in revocation of your posting privileges.</font> That place i left after 1 day. Horrible things happen to new guys lol.
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I have had both good and bad experiences here. Because I got into this hobby not knowing anyone else in it, it helps to have others to ask about things. I have gotten some really helpful advice, which is great because I want to do everything I can to have healthy, happy fish. On the other hand, I've read some replies to other posts that were flat out mean to someone who obviously cared enough to ask for help.
Any time you have a large group of people with a common interest, you're gonna have some, "my frag is bigger than your frag". I realize that, but if these people would just keep their "frags" in their "tanks" and remember, "If we didn't care enough to be here learning and asking questions, we wouldn't be here". (okay, bad analogy, but it's the best I could do.
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To end on a good note, I really do love learning all I can and I learn a LOT from the forums here. Thanks!
Any time you have a large group of people with a common interest, you're gonna have some, "my frag is bigger than your frag". I realize that, but if these people would just keep their "frags" in their "tanks" and remember, "If we didn't care enough to be here learning and asking questions, we wouldn't be here". (okay, bad analogy, but it's the best I could do.
)To end on a good note, I really do love learning all I can and I learn a LOT from the forums here. Thanks!
ZoeReef
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I am a certified, sub-100-post-newbie, quite thrilled with my 24g nano with a 'halide' light. I just learned how to attach coral, bought my first anenome the other day and the whole family thrilled to watch it tackle a piece of shrimp. I want to say just how wonderful this site and these forums have been. I have been so amazed at how helpful people have been. It's really way beyond the help offered in any other hobby/sporting activity I have been involved with.
Of course, People will be people; that's understood. I do try to read here and post in the Newbie forum, but I just want to say thanks for all the help.
There are certain advantages in being new. In the future I will have to spend many dollars on a fish to get the same thrill I now get our yellow tailed blue $4 damsel. Consider the fact that we are taking time picking out just the right shrimp! Such fun.
Next year at this time we will have a 700g reef tank in our new facility. I only hope I enjoy it as much as my nano.
Andy
Of course, People will be people; that's understood. I do try to read here and post in the Newbie forum, but I just want to say thanks for all the help.
There are certain advantages in being new. In the future I will have to spend many dollars on a fish to get the same thrill I now get our yellow tailed blue $4 damsel. Consider the fact that we are taking time picking out just the right shrimp! Such fun.
Next year at this time we will have a 700g reef tank in our new facility. I only hope I enjoy it as much as my nano.
Andy
Chad Vossen
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if i could go back and time and tell myself how much i would spend in the next 5 months. i think id back out of it as well lol. i shoulda stuck with the 90 gal discus tank...
People need to remember its a hobby and should be enjoyable. dont take it or yourself to seriously. No one is forcing you to post on this forum! If you have a problem and no good advice to give please dont post a reply to questions you think are stupid. Remember there are countless different ways to setup and take care of reef tanks. Your way is not the only way. It may be or may not be the best way. Be calm and dont rip people apart because they do thing diferent then you do. So far ive had a great experence here and my hats off to the RC staff for looking out for all of us. Thank you all and remember have fun.
I subscribe to an Australian marine forum and it astounded me that quite a few "experts" were so narrow in their thinking and so venomous in their attacks on any lateral thinking. I took it upon myself to PM some of the newbies that were so under attack to offer some hopefully helpful advice. On more than one occasion, those that I PMed were on the point of giving up. What a loss this would be to our hobby. Thank God this forum has some restraint. Even if you disagree with a posting, what is the harm in doing so nicely? Flaming is not a sport!
gnrlee
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I'm not new to the hobby either, but I even get grilled by other members if I ask a question or post something they might not understand or don't agree with. I have a beautiful tank and it is doing quite well. Everybody at one time or another has almost given up on the hobby. I was at that point at one time myself. Thanks to good a friend that owns the LFS down the street and helpful members here on RC, my tank is doing great. This is the whole point of RC. Everyone that flames a noob, at one time or another was a noob too. It's funny how so many people forget that.
was he your friend before or after you found out you had salt water
i have friends also at any fish store i go into who wants bussiness . sorry had to say it. just me being stupid
all boards have flamers. ( rc just seems to have more because... it does have more its the biggest of all the sites) when you see some one flaming just think. this is probobly a guy who yells at people cause he thinks the louder he is the smarter he sounds
XeniaMania
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This is one thing I constantly remind people of, we are reading words on a screen. You can not hear the tone someone is using, and whatever tone is used for that statement is your own interpretation in your own head. If you ask a question, and you read a reply and feel bashed on, you're going to think that person's using a bashing tone against you when in reality he isn't. It's very hard to just take words at face value because we're typically emotional when we talk to each other. That's why sometimes when I know I'm about to make a comment that can be taken negatively, I will add a word of positive reinforcement at the end of the statement like bro, or buddy.
One thing that I will say that will make me sound like I'd come down on someone, especially noobs, are the ones who just get the equipment because they got it cheap although it's totally impractical like 250W on a 10g tank? See, that can be taken as a bash, but truth is, it really is impractical! A personal friend of mine picks up a 29g tall tank, and asked me to convert it to a reef for him w/ flourescent lighting. Fortunately he's my friend and I can just laugh at him in front of his face w/o his feelings being too bruised, but again, ppl see a good deal before proper husbandry.
Sometimes we don't mean to bite people's heads off, but as more experienced hobbyists, there are certain things that we are aware of that you should not do at all. If a person is about to treat their reef tank w/ copper, and we know that's not good at all, and despite our best efforts to be nice, if that person still wants to do it, then what becomes the "responsibility" on our part? Do we just let them go and destroy their tank? Or do we take a firmer stance? These instances do happen on many occassions, and although it is "their" tank, I feel as an experienced hobbyist, to help save some n00bs from the agonizing growing pains that I've gone through. But then my "give up" statement is "some ppl just gotta learn their lesson on their own", and then they get upset at me for saying that...:lol:
One thing that I will say that will make me sound like I'd come down on someone, especially noobs, are the ones who just get the equipment because they got it cheap although it's totally impractical like 250W on a 10g tank? See, that can be taken as a bash, but truth is, it really is impractical! A personal friend of mine picks up a 29g tall tank, and asked me to convert it to a reef for him w/ flourescent lighting. Fortunately he's my friend and I can just laugh at him in front of his face w/o his feelings being too bruised, but again, ppl see a good deal before proper husbandry.
Sometimes we don't mean to bite people's heads off, but as more experienced hobbyists, there are certain things that we are aware of that you should not do at all. If a person is about to treat their reef tank w/ copper, and we know that's not good at all, and despite our best efforts to be nice, if that person still wants to do it, then what becomes the "responsibility" on our part? Do we just let them go and destroy their tank? Or do we take a firmer stance? These instances do happen on many occassions, and although it is "their" tank, I feel as an experienced hobbyist, to help save some n00bs from the agonizing growing pains that I've gone through. But then my "give up" statement is "some ppl just gotta learn their lesson on their own", and then they get upset at me for saying that...:lol:
XeniaMania
Active member
Eyes are a bit hard to see..:lol:
And this was really good advice, meant to stop you from buying what you thought was 'good enough' only to discover later that it really wasn't.
Most people I know who counsel this way have a closet full of crap, all of it replaced with the stuff they should have gotten in the first place.
It isn't hostile to Newbies, but good advice.
Regards.
Mike Kirda
XeniaMania
Active member
Desperate souls with a desperate cry out for attention I'd say..:lol:
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