reefcentral getting hostile?
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XeniaMania
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I just ignore them. Why bother...makes me look worse on my part.
XeniaMania
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Fiji Blues..
You can see the torquoise on the bottom left corner of the image and the blue cespitularia in the center.
ReefHotSpot
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awesome xenia tank. I am new to reef central but not to reefkeeping. I have to tell you, though. The attitude which is pervasive, not by everybody but quite frequently found in many threads, is something I wouldn't have expected to find here. We're talking fish and corals here. Is it really a problem for you to try to help somebody out? And, why would you even bother posting something terse and unhelpful. I just posted on a thread that had an unfortunate title. "My regal angel is squirting." Yeah. That's a pretty bad way to start off a thread. But, some guy gets on and starts scolding the guy for killing fish and then makes a crack about his mother? Being a student of philosophy and ethics, it is a pretty absurd thing to get on anyone's case in a hobbyist forum for killing a fish while maintaining that you love them. The best hobbyist has killed more than his share and, while we are not the problem for reefs in the macro sense, it is pretty crazy to get on a public forum and protest someone else's murderous ways. If we assume everyone's intent is that of a hobbyist, then why speak to someone as if they were not likewise intentioned? But, again, truthfully (erg), the problem arises from the idea that we love these animals. We do not. We cannot. Otherwise, we would leave them alone. We love their colors and their majesty and we would do the same thing to a sunset if we could catch it, no matter how brown it turned. Mix a little of this confused intent, a little anonymity, and maybe, may I say, even a little guilt. (At least, I hope there is some out there) And, well, you've got people running around talking like they know something. I care for lots of fish and lots of corals and have spent lots of time in classrooms and really know very little. I'm not trying to end on some bland epistemological statement but the best of what we know really amounts to little more than this in and that out and how do we treat the disfunction along the way. We "know," in the sense of knowing a being, absolutely nothing of what we profess to "love" and, in general, couldn't care less. That said, don't take it too seriously. It's pretty. You want it. Buy it and do your best to keep it alive. As an admittedly new member, I'd like this to be the kind of place that can help you keep it alive for its sake and yours.
Maxwell
Maxwell
ReefHotSpot
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I just looked back at your tank. Awesome xenia tank.
XeniaMania
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Thanx for the compliments Red. I would have to say though, there are different forms of "hostility". Like recently, I was at this guy's house dropping off some corals, and I'm watching his Sohal beating up every other tang in the tank. Then I come here and on another thread, there's multiple people wanting to add tangs w/ a Sohal. You can't help but get upset at times because these ppl obviously have not done any research about the Sohal tang, and being "aggressive" is a form of deterrent.
ReefHotSpot
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Hey xenia,
Your aggressiveness in responding to them is a form of deterrent? Is that what you meant? If that is what you meant then my opinion-and remember this is only my opinion-would be that this is not your place to deter them. Or, rather, that using harsh commentary as a means of deterrent comes at the expense of diminishing the function of the forum as a media by which information is shared. How many threads have you seen descend into back and forth bs. I've seen more than I could have ever expected. What about those that are deterred from bringing up the subject in the first place because they are worried about getting "flamed." The fact that there is jargon for this kind of thing is even surprising to me. Listen, this place is yours much more than mine, but I was drawn here because I thought this place was about sharing information among interested people. Aggressiveness can only serve to shut that down.
I guess the real issue that I am finding troubling about attacks in threads--and I didn't bring it up though I do find its existence surprising--is that, because of the relative anonymity which is allowed by the context of the forum, the "aggressiveness" seems to skip right over good-natured jabbing among people with mutual interests and morphs in an attempt to establish some sort of hierarchy. Which, itself, is probably a result of the relative anonymity of the whole venture. Anyway, interesting stuff.
I recently moved up to LA for Irvine. And I am an alum from UCI. Go Eaters, I guess. Wish I had met you when I was down there. Would have loved to have seen that tank.
Best Regards,
Maxwell
Your aggressiveness in responding to them is a form of deterrent? Is that what you meant? If that is what you meant then my opinion-and remember this is only my opinion-would be that this is not your place to deter them. Or, rather, that using harsh commentary as a means of deterrent comes at the expense of diminishing the function of the forum as a media by which information is shared. How many threads have you seen descend into back and forth bs. I've seen more than I could have ever expected. What about those that are deterred from bringing up the subject in the first place because they are worried about getting "flamed." The fact that there is jargon for this kind of thing is even surprising to me. Listen, this place is yours much more than mine, but I was drawn here because I thought this place was about sharing information among interested people. Aggressiveness can only serve to shut that down.
I guess the real issue that I am finding troubling about attacks in threads--and I didn't bring it up though I do find its existence surprising--is that, because of the relative anonymity which is allowed by the context of the forum, the "aggressiveness" seems to skip right over good-natured jabbing among people with mutual interests and morphs in an attempt to establish some sort of hierarchy. Which, itself, is probably a result of the relative anonymity of the whole venture. Anyway, interesting stuff.
I recently moved up to LA for Irvine. And I am an alum from UCI. Go Eaters, I guess. Wish I had met you when I was down there. Would have loved to have seen that tank.
Best Regards,
Maxwell
XeniaMania
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No..I don't mean I do it as a form of deterent....I don't go around biting someone's head off in hopes of getting them to stop. If anything, I'd say a piece of my mind, but still give a good solution to them afterwards.
I think I'll be around RC for a while, feel free to look me up and the tank might even be better later on..
I think I'll be around RC for a while, feel free to look me up and the tank might even be better later on..
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