Reefkeeping, Oh the Irony

[Theomi]

As to us/i not cherish/value the life of the fish in my fish tank (and other animals for that matter) = What a load of Bull, i bet that most people keeping reef tanks (and again other animals) cherish those creatures more then to only see it as an item that can be possesed!
And i also believe that those creatures have a better life in terms of feeding, predatory issues and long lives...

As to the issue of giving back to nature = I totally agree, we must give back what we can to preserve our beautiful world...
My good old father worked as a lumberjack/woodcutter (difference?) for many years and when they cut down a old tree they had to plant a new one right after, in an effort to preserve the forrest for the next generation...

Just my 2 cents

BTW you with the Rommel avatar are you an nazi sympathizer or do you just think that Rommel was a great man?
Only asking because im curious, no hard feelings towards you or your avatar

 

[LobsterOfJustice]

Wow, I can not believe the kind of responses this is getting. People get angry when they are uncomfortable and their "status-quo" and consious are shaken or challenged.

rtstrat, that is the saddest post I have seen is a long time. If anyone here will be leaving RC soon, I'm guessing it would be you.

I would like to ask the moderators that instead of locking this thread (going down the toilet fast), that the inappropriate posts be removed, and the posters warned.

 

[rtstrat01]

well lobster, sorry if you feel its sad, but i feel the attempts made by many to try and undermind the hobby should be stopped, if buddha, and you, feel we are doing such harm to the reefs then be the first to stop, dont try and make others feel bad as you continue with the hobby.

 

[chrisjet]

I know a guy who owns a fish store. He tells me he will hear people swear that they only buy aqua-cultered fish and frags. But if he has 2 of the exact fish or coral and one was cultured and the other taken from the ocean. Cultered being $60 and ocean caught $40 - guess which one the guy buys. There are ton of people who lie to themselves. I dont lie to myself, I know it is morally wrong. But I like it and think it looks cool - just like everyone else. When people tell me that they are in it for education - that is a joke! ALso, well said rtstrat

 

[LobsterOfJustice]

You know, up until now, I wanted to make reef organisms available in a responsible, sustainable way to the hobby. This thread is making me want to simply direct all the focus and energy into "undermining the hobby" and making it unavaiable altogether.

People with no respect for life should not be allowed to have lives in their control. Period.

 

[chrisjet]

lobsterof justice your a dork, go join PETA!

 

[owenb01]

lobsterboy, don't you have a campfire to find so you can sing kumbaya with your PETA friends?

 

[chrisjet]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10679856#post10679856 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by owenb01
lobsterboy, don't you have a campfire to find so you can sing kumbaya with your PETA friends?

LOL - thats the funniest thing i have heard all day ! This thread should prob be closed because it pretty much SUCKS!

 

[CaptNemo]

Hey reefbuddha,
Thanks for the post, you have my support.

Honestly, I don't have the power to help the world or try to change those people's mind. But i will do my part by taking care of my fishes and corals better so they don't die. Therefore i won't be buying more fishes and help destroy the ocean.

Keep up the good work.

 

[rtstrat01]

its not a lack of respect lobster, i dont just kill the fish, the list i provided was over like three years, and hey undermind the hobby, but do it elsewhere, i understand bringing out the issues with the hobby, and so does rc, thats why they have a responsible reefkeeping forum, and hey if we did not have laws and regulations i to would be there fighting for it, but you know what, we already have laws inplace, so lets not get all crazy here, you cant change the world, and if anything we need lfs owners who are there for education, keeping the moms and dads from buying the nemos and doris for there betta bowls so there kids have these fish, not realizing the care they need.

 

[Fish Filet]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10678898#post10678898 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LobsterOfJustice
Guys, I dont think you are getting it. The OP is not saying that this is the largest threat to our oceans. He is pointing out to hypocrisy of our hobby. If you truly loved and respected these animals, wouldn't you rather them be "happy" in their natural environment?

And, no, I dont eat seafood

Please donate your tank and all those gadgets and wizardry you have listed in your signature to a public institution where it can be put to better use like ... say ... uh educating the masses and helping them to realize and appreciate the true beauty of our oceans out of which we kill thousands and thousands of nemos and dorys on a daily basis.

 

[aquarius77]

I love sushi, covered in smelt and eel sauce,mmmm.

Seriously, this thread does not belong here. PETA members should be banned, kumbaya.

 

[rtstrat01]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10679923#post10679923 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Fish Filet
Please donate your tank and all those gadgets and wizardry you have listed in your signature to a public institution where it can be put to better use like ... say ... uh educating the masses and helping them to realize and appreciate the true beauty of our oceans out of which we kill thousands and thousands of nemos and dorys on a daily basis.

good point, i call dibs on the mh, and hey lobster, its funny how your like exactly who buddha is directing everything too, your the hypocrate here, here your saying hey its unhuman haveing these creatures in our tanks, but yet, from what i gather from your signature, you seem to have a really nice setup, so go ahead continue on standing next to buddha, but know here, your what he is directing all this towards. give it

 

[owenb01]

Buddha and lobster, how can we say one life is worth more than another? I personally don't mind killing a little now and then, but you guys obviously do. That being the case, I don't know how you two sleep at night knowing how many microbes you killed when you took a shower in the morning. Oh, silly me, hippies don't bathe.

Well, I've gotta go, maybe we can chat some more after I go club some seal pups.

 

[Fish Filet]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10678898#post10678898 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LobsterOfJustice
Guys, I dont think you are getting it. The OP is not saying that this is the largest threat to our oceans. He is pointing out to hypocrisy of our hobby. If you truly loved and respected these animals, wouldn't you rather them be "happy" in their natural environment?

And, no, I dont eat seafood

Yes, and while you're at it, Mr. Justice, I'd like for you to let us all know what you plan on doing with all those SPS corals that would be "happy" in their "natural environment."

Also, I'd like to know if you've ever had any of the following symptoms:

* upset stomach
* vomiting
* stomach pain
* belching
* constipation
* dry mouth
* increased urination
* loss of appetite
* metallic taste

If your answer is yes to any single one of them, then more likely than not you have taken a medication for it which contains calcium carbonate. I am sure you realize that a fair percentage of CaC03 is extracted by mining or quarrying coral reef rocks. So, please, read the label carefully next time you feel like popping a tylenol or two. :lol:

 

[rtstrat01]

owen, your a true nazi, lol, i love it..................................j/k, about the nazi part, anyhow, thats some funny stuff. i hate hippies, all they want to do is try and point fingers at people, thats okay, tomorrow, i will get into my big SUV, goto the store and buy tons of meat, everything from beef, to poultry, then i am going to buy some fish, i am leaning toward a rabbitfish, but i dont think they are not tank bred, oh no.............how will i ever live with myself. maybe i will just have to cook a big steak and drink my sorrow away as i watch my new loittle fishy swim around my little tank where he will be feed the same time every day and wake up to see me stare at him the rest of his life.

it would be one thing if i made him pay rent or earn his food, i mean really. its the good life

 

[Fish Filet]

And for future references concerning this thread, please refer to my avatar.

 

[rtstrat01]

ha ha, i was going to comment on that, lol, i love that to, fitting for this kinda thread

 

[jthao]

I love this thread!!!!! Very Very entertaining!!! I feel so bad that my black tang and sohal tang died, because I paid soooo much for them!!!! I do believe that we should try very hard to keep our fishes and corals alive so we don't have to buy new ones because damn....... this hobby is expensive!! I understand the environmental issues and how humans are arrogant and selfish but what the heck.... we're part of the animal kingdom. It's survival of the fittest, a lion will eat all the wilderbeast if he can catch them all!!! But he had to work in order to catch his food so it's fair, well I worked two weeks just to buy a freakin' tang!!! I think I deserve to have him damn it!!!!

 

[Theomi]

I once saw a PETA campain saying dont cut the wool of sheep!!!!
I think that is just stupid as hell, if you dont trim of the sheeps wool in the summer they can die from overheating (i know this since my parrents have had a sheep farm)

Sorry for the OT thing but saw someone say PETA and just had to say what i think of them....

Also i love sushi and a good steak (not togheter)