Regal Angel Primer
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Dmorty217
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Better picture of my Regal Angel this AM. The second picture really show how fat (s)he. I think I have a Female since the spike is small, but she is young, just lost her false eye spot a few months ago.
Awesome pictures!
alton
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Sadly they are still not paired even after two years. I had the larger one and then added the juvenile thinking they would pair since normally juveniles are female? (Just guessing) It has been a love hate put up with relationship. At first there was torn fins, then there was peacefulness, the last two weeks it has been a I am going to chase but since you are faster quicker and can slide through smaller holes I can't catch you. Which was the relationship there was before my Flames paired up and started spawning. When I took the previous posted picture no aggression these two the first was in QT, the second was after I dded her to my 300
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alton
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Yes but remember I kept the juvenile in a QT for a couple months so when he was added he was fat and happy and ate like a pig. Plus having a ton of rock and corals helps with plenty of hiding places. I actually thought of adding a third? Some guy by the name of Copps did it once, I think most know who I am talking about. I am still kicking myself for not making it to Houston last year for his talk!
cFloor
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Thanks alton. My tank is newly set up (upgrade from previous tanks.) The regal in my display has been with me for quite some time, in my previous tank and the past month or so in my new tank...eats everything, fat and happy. My other regal has now been in my QT for about 6 weeks and has eaten aggressively since the beginning. That fish is also fat and seems very comfortable in captivity. That fish will stay in QT for another week or two, which is when my prazi pro treatment will be complete. My main concern is that I don't know if I have two males. The fish in QT is slightly larger, about 3.5-4". The spines on both look very similar to me. I am planning on introducing the new regal in a large acclimation box made from eggcrate, along with a few anthias. I guess all I can do is guage the aggression while in acclimation. I'd like to figure out a way to divide a whole section of the tank off for the new one, but not sure how I can do that yet.
I know copps had 3, and that would be amazing if you could pull it off too!
alton
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Some say long spine male, short spine female I have no proof in that though. I attached my divider that I use on my 300. The juvey could swim back and forth but the male could not. When a chase ensued the juvey usually headed for a rock versus back into security. I use it every time I introduce a new fish or have to take one out
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OrionN
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I check with my book, Scott Michael did not stated that Regal angels are gonochoristic or hermaphrodites. He did mentioned:
"Juvenile P. diacanthus are solitary, secretive fish. Although adults are usually observed singly or in pairs, the typical social unit consists of a single male and one or more females. (Most harems consist of two to four females.)"
From that observation, if he is right, I think they are hermaphrodites.
They are also in a Genus if their own in his book, so there is not general section on the Genus.
"Juvenile P. diacanthus are solitary, secretive fish. Although adults are usually observed singly or in pairs, the typical social unit consists of a single male and one or more females. (Most harems consist of two to four females.)"
From that observation, if he is right, I think they are hermaphrodites.
They are also in a Genus if their own in his book, so there is not general section on the Genus.
cFloor
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alton- that's a very nice tank you've got there. That partition looks like it would be perfect. I like how the small guy can go through the holes and the larger cannot. I will keep you guys posted on my experiment and how it goes. My regal in QT is a misbar and just a very good looking fish. I really hope the two will get along.
OrionN- Its interesting that we don't' know for sure how to sex these fish. I always heard it had to do with the length of the gill spine, but who really knows. If they are hermaphrodites, would that mean that a male can revert back to a female like a genicanthus angel?
OrionN- Its interesting that we don't' know for sure how to sex these fish. I always heard it had to do with the length of the gill spine, but who really knows. If they are hermaphrodites, would that mean that a male can revert back to a female like a genicanthus angel?
OrionN
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This depends on they type of hemaphrodites
ThRoewer
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I'm fairly sure they all start as females and change sex to male like most, if not all, angels. Though I suspect they need to reach a minimum size before turning from female to male.
I've seen regal angels by the hundreds at wholesalers and only large specimen show a clear sex dimorphism. Adult regals (180 mm TL and up) are actually quite easy to sex by their gill thorns. The males develop massive thorns while the female's thorns remain significantly smaller.
I put two sub-adults together and they got along well and showed some mating behavior. But I'm fairly sure they both were females at the time I put them together. The smaller one was in my tank for about a year before I could find another, slightly larger one of the same color variant. (I tell you these blue-gray ones are hard to find since everyone wants the yellow ones.)
This was the smaller one:
It's gill thorn was tiny for its size of about 100 mm TL. Specimens from the Red Sea or the Maldives have significantly larger thorns at this size. I kind of have doubts that they are actually the same species.
A pair of Red Sea or Maldives regal angels is still on my wish list - only right now I don't have the right tank for them.
I've seen regal angels by the hundreds at wholesalers and only large specimen show a clear sex dimorphism. Adult regals (180 mm TL and up) are actually quite easy to sex by their gill thorns. The males develop massive thorns while the female's thorns remain significantly smaller.
I put two sub-adults together and they got along well and showed some mating behavior. But I'm fairly sure they both were females at the time I put them together. The smaller one was in my tank for about a year before I could find another, slightly larger one of the same color variant. (I tell you these blue-gray ones are hard to find since everyone wants the yellow ones.)
This was the smaller one:
It's gill thorn was tiny for its size of about 100 mm TL. Specimens from the Red Sea or the Maldives have significantly larger thorns at this size. I kind of have doubts that they are actually the same species.
A pair of Red Sea or Maldives regal angels is still on my wish list - only right now I don't have the right tank for them.
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Beautiful fish
I don't know about Ca, but the 'blue-gray' Regals are always available here in NY
ThRoewer
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In Germany the Red Sea and Maldives ones ar much more common (both places are way closer to Europe than the Philippines or Australia where the blue gray come from)
